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Fund: Suillus lakei (Murrill) A.H. Sm. & Thiers (22702)

Wann: 2009-06-30
Wächst auch dort: Burmis, Alberta, Canada [Landkarte: hier klicken]
Wer: Johann Harnisch (jrussula)
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Anmerkungen: Said to = Suillus amabilis (Peck) Sing,

Cap; 1 & one half to 3 & 1 half inches across,
Some shade of rusty orange-red, or brown-tan fibrils covering cap surface, with yellow orange back ground,
darkening or browning where bruised, fibrils moist but not viscid unless very wet, surface cracking when dry, veil remnants on margin,

Pores; yellow then ocher-yellow, staining rusty or red brown when cut or bruised,

Stalk; yellow above veil, brownish below, surface darkening, interior stains gray-green slightly, but as in the concise yet precise words of Johan Harnisch “some what debatable some of the time” (at least when dry), base with mycelia attached,

Veil; a whitish band around stalk, and some remaining on cap margin,

Flesh; Yellow at first when cut then turning pinkish orange, especially in cap margin, and green-gray in stalk base,

Taste slightly sour, of lemon juice, at least when raw,

Found under Douglas-fir.
I had some for diner and supper, they were good,

Suillus pictus is found under pine,

Suillus decipiens cap is not as dark lighter orange,

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Mit nacktem Auge bestimmt: not staining blue, found under dug fir,
it was rather dry out

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Erstellt: 2009-07-03 16:44:16 WET (+0000)
Von: Johann Harnisch (jrussula)
Zusammenfassung: Thanks Gerhard,

the stipe base turns from greenish to having a silvery gray shine over it as it dries,

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Erstellt: 2009-07-03 00:38:06 WET (+0000)
Von: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
Zusammenfassung: The slight color change in the stipe fits into the species concept

but I would say it’s a slight greenish tinge and not bluish … so it stands in the description too and so it was with my Czech specimen. The name Boletinus/ Suillus amabilis is best considered a nomen dubium. Smell is somewhat sourish.
THIS IS SUILLUS LAKEI.

56456

Erstellt: 2009-07-02 20:09:27 WET (+0000)
Von: Johann Harnisch (jrussula)
Zusammenfassung: I added more pictures…….

notice the darkening of the pores and the bluing of the bottom of the stipe,

found under Douglas-fir,

82632

Erstellt: 2009-07-02 15:44:39 WET (+0000)
Von: Daniel B. Wheeler (Tuberale)
Zusammenfassung: Some bluing in stipe

at least to my eye. See cut stipe photo. Not pronounced, but present. S. ponderosus and S. caerulescens do not have the pronounced dark red pileus scales. Gotta stay with S. lakei.

Erstellt: 2009-07-01 20:53:52 WET (+0000)
Von: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
Zusammenfassung: You got it

this has to be Suillus lakei … I found this in Europe in Italy and posted it but it was very old and frostbitten and soaked … I also found its variety var. landkammeri. And I can clearly see the white woolly zone around the stipe in these pics, just look at the second photo. Another characteristic is the reddening pore surface in age as seen in the last photo. But S.lakei is a strict symbiont with Dug fir according to literature.
But there are two close allies: Suillus ponderosus and Suillus caerulescens (the latter one turning blue in the stipe). The former is very difficult to distinguish. S. decipiens can be ruled out in my opinion.

56456

Erstellt: 2009-07-01 17:20:03 WET (+0000)
Von: Daniel B. Wheeler (Tuberale)
Zusammenfassung: Looks like S. lakei

Helene M. E. Schalkwijk-Barendsen in Mushrooms of Northwest North America states she found S. lakei at Sushwap Lake, British Columbia on October 12, 1982. This seems very early for S. lakei but I don’t know your area. If S. lakei it should have a wooly white annulus around the stipe. I don’t see any on your photos.

Erstellt: 2009-07-01 16:48:35 WET (+0000)
Von: Johann Harnisch (jrussula)
Zusammenfassung: other possibilities?

I don’t know much about Suillus bresadolae

but using David Arora’s book MD
I come up with these names,
Suillus lakei
or suillus decipiens which also are often found under Dug-Fir,

82632

Erstellt: 2009-06-30 21:20:50 WET (+0000)
Von: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
Zusammenfassung: When I look at the first pic

there really is a striking resemblance with one strictly confined European species of high elevations under Larix called Suillus bresadolae (I think I have posted them already). The yellow margin and the brownish rest of the cap and the appearance of the stipe are all very close but S. bresadolae has gray pores mixed with yellow at the brink and is known from the Alps only as far as I know.

56456

Erstellt: 2009-06-30 21:17:32 WET (+0000)
Von: Johann Harnisch (jrussula)
Zusammenfassung: I don’t know

I am in a new area for me………….

82632

Erstellt: 2009-06-30 21:06:46 WET (+0000)
Von: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
Zusammenfassung: Reminds of S.grevillei

which exceptionally can grow under balsam fir in North America and under Douglas fir in Finland (adventive) but I think this is not S.grevillei. The cracking of the cap seems to be a sign of age or exposition to sun and dryness.
Is there any Suillus resembling S.grevillei in your area?

56456

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Bilder: (large thumbnails)

49008
Here are some more pictures of these fungi notice the darkening of the pores and the bluing of the bottom of the stipe,
found under Douglas-fir

48774

48775

48776

48777

48778

49009
Here are some more pictures of these fungi notice the darkening of the pores and the bluing of the bottom of the stipe,
found under Douglas-fir

49010
Here are some more pictures of these fungi notice the darkening of the pores and the bluing of the bottom of the stipe,
found under Douglas-fir

49011
Here are some more pictures of these fungi notice the darkening of the pores and the bluing of the bottom of the stipe,
found under Douglas-fir

49012

49013

49014

49015

49016
Here are some more pictures of these fungi notice the darkening of the pores and the bluing of the bottom of the stipe,
found under Douglas-fir

49017
Here are some more pictures of these fungi notice the darkening of the pores and the bluing of the bottom of the stipe,
found under Douglas-fir

49018
Here are some more pictures of these fungi notice the darkening of the pores and the bluing of the bottom of the stipe,
found under Douglas-fir

49019
Here are some more pictures of these fungi notice the darkening of the pores and the bluing of the bottom of the stipe,
found under Douglas-fir

49020
Here are some more pictures of these fungi notice the darkening of the pores and the bluing of the bottom of the stipe,
found under Douglas-fir

49021
Here are some more pictures of these fungi notice the darkening of the pores and the bluing of the bottom of the stipe,
found under Douglas-fir

49022
Here are some more pictures of these fungi notice the darkening of the pores and the bluing of the bottom of the stipe,
found under Douglas-fir





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