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Observation: Pterospora andromedea Nutt. (71116)
About Pterospora andromedea Nutt. [MyCoPortal]
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When: 2011-07-07
Collection location: Hamlin Park East Woods, Shoreline, Washington, USA [Click for map]
Who: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
No herbarium specimen

Notes: Stalk was very sticky. Assumed to be growing on Rhizopogon sp.

Species Lists:
Fungi, Lichen, and Slime Molds of Suburban and Urban Washington
Mycoheterotrophic Plants
Mycoheterotrophic and other similar oddball Plantae of Washington State
Non-Fungal
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  T. Sage   92% (2)   Eye3Eyes3
Recognized by sight
  T. Sage   45% (2)  
Recognized by sight
  T. Sage   45% (2)  
Recognized by sight
  T. Sage   -71% (3)  
Recognized by sight

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Created: 2011-07-09 13:23:56 EDT (-0400)
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
Summary: Thanks for a glimpse ….

Into the mixed up world or Rhizopogon, Tom!

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Created: 2011-07-09 12:20:20 EDT (-0400)
By: Tom Bruns (pogon)
Summary: More about the confusing world of Rhizopogon than anyone wants to know

R. subcaerulescens appears to be a synonym of R. ellenae. This is based on identical ITS sequences of the holotypes. R. ellenae (or R. subcaerulescens) is the host to snow plant (Sarcodes), but not Pterospora. So, even though R. subcaerulescens was initially reported with Pterespora by Cullings (and me); that’s wrong, and I can share some of the blame.

The nomenclature gets messy because R. ellenae and R. subcaerulescens were described by Smith in monograph with Zeller. Martin Bidartondo, who is at Kew Gardens now, found the connection between Snow plant and R. ellenae before he found out that R. subcaerulescens and R. ellenae were the same thing. So we have used the name R. ellenae over R. subcaerulescens, but this was an arbitrary decision and either name could be chosen as the correct one (which no one has done yet).

In the lake states there is an undescribed species of Rhizopogon that we know only from sequence that associates with disjunct populations of Pterospora. When found it will be the only member of the amylopogon group in the East.

Morphologically no one seems to be able to tell R. ellenae, R. salebrosus, or R. arctostaphylos apart. I say this with confidence because Martin sequenced a bunch of collections identified by Smith and by Trappe and nobody got the distinctions between these things right. I think this is because the color changes that are usually focused on are very developmentally plastic.

Smiths holotypes for the amylogon group have all been sequenced and its an amazing mess. Many appear to identical, and “paratypes” are often different. Bottom line – that part of genus is confusing.


Created: 2011-07-08 21:59:05 EDT (-0400)
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
Summary: Thank you both, kindly!

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Created: 2011-07-08 20:19:09 EDT (-0400)
By: thinker
Summary: beautiful

MO is a tough crowd with these ratings..

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Created: 2011-07-08 18:33:13 EDT (-0400)
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
Summary: nice shots, Tim.

love the stipe close-up! ;)

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Created: 2011-07-08 01:09:03 EDT (-0400)
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
Summary: Thanks for the info!

^

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Created: 2011-07-07 22:42:29 EDT (-0400)
By: Tom Bruns (pogon)
Summary: Its host is Rhizopogon salebrosus or R. arctostaphylli

The plant is a parasite on Rhizopogon species and is very specific to two listed above



Created: 2011-07-07 17:09:11 EDT (-0400)
Last modified: 2011-07-09 13:24:33 EDT (-0400)
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