Created: 2008-06-19 21:42:02
By: Nathan Wilson (nathan)
Summary: Please no copyrighted scans without explicit permission

Unless you have explicit permission from the author (and maybe even the publisher) you should not post images that come from books. I wish it were otherwise, but that is illegal. Some people argue that the use of ‘thumbnail images’ is fair use, but it has not been clearly decided yet in the court (see the Wikipedia article on Fair Use for more detailed discussion).

As far as text goes, short quotes that are not a substantial portion of the work can be used under fair use. I also consider latin diagnoses and their translations to be non-copyrightable since they are technical definitions, but as far as I know that has never been tested in the courts.

Created: 2008-06-19 14:13:07
By: Ian Dodd Kundabung NSW Australia (kundabungkid)
Summary: Re comments on ID

I have taken onboard your advise (Deb). I have seriously thought about scanning the reference images that I have attached to an ID in an attempt to help in making a correct decision on naming. The problem here is twofold. I am not sure about the legal side of using images from the reference, and at the moment due to my wifes ill health and the fact that she thinks the property is getting too much for me to keep the way I like to have it, we put the property up for sale and it sold immediately. We are only moving into the small town of Kempsey on the rural outskirts, to be closer to essential services. I will be confined in my time spent doing what I love (photography and bush walking and being in contact with you members of M.O.)
For a short period, till we get settled I will be limited to time spent on what I enjoy. What is your opinion on scanning reference images for use on the site. Maybe Nathan would be the best to reply to the legal thing about posting images from reference books..

Created: 2008-06-19 06:53:30
By: debbie viess (amanitarita)
Summary: Good call, Doug.

I agonized over this one, from the “description” which intimated a larger size to the fruit bodies and darker sporedrop, to searching for clues on caps (I, too saw the white drop, but also one dark area, and went with my dark preconception). Guess even half a world away we can still have some common, garden variety mushrooms. The velutipes appears to be a good fit.

Created: 2008-06-18 16:19:13
By: Ian Dodd Kundabung NSW Australia (kundabungkid)
Summary: Re Description.

The description was taken from B.Furher’s Australian Fungi. I usually put that it is an extract, must have been tired and missed it. Yes Deb, as you guessed at that time I would not have had the knowledge to do a spore print. I have added these notes in an effort to help in the correct description and ID as I do not fully yet comprehend all the technicalities of a good description.

Created: 2008-06-18 16:03:48
By: debbie viess (amanitarita)
Summary: maybe Pholiota sp.

Where did your description come from? Did you do a spore-print back in March?
Malicola has a rusty brown spore print. Hygrophanous means cap color changing markedly when drying; don’t see that feature in your photo.

Could be a Pholiota, not enough details to tell species.