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Observation: Amanita sect. Vaginatae sensu Zhu L. Yang (95497)
About Amanita sect. Vaginatae sensu Zhu L. Yang [MyCoPortal]
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Public Description (default) [Edit]
Public Description [Edit]
When: 2012-05-25
Collection location: Cathi’s old house, Shoreline, Washington, USA [Click for map]
Who: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
Herbarium specimen reported
Species Lists:
Fungi, Lichen, and Slime Molds of Suburban and Urban Washington
Puget Sound Mycological Society Vouchering Project
Amanita of Washington State
Rare, Oddball, and other Notable Observations of Fungi of Washington State
Proposed Names: Propose Another Name
Proposed Name User Community Vote
  T. Sage   -73% (4)  
Recognized by sight
  irenea   13% (3)  
Recognized by sight
  darv   -14% (5)  
Recognized by sight
  amanitarita   47% (2)   Eye3Eyes3
Recognized by sight

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Created: 2012-06-01 22:37:04 EDT (-0400)
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
Summary: Spores look like they have a Q around 1.2

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Created: 2012-05-29 22:51:22 EDT (-0400)
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
Summary: No staining

Even where cut, days later.
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Created: 2012-05-29 22:42:40 EDT (-0400)
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
Summary: after all this handling…

it still shows no red or yellow staining. it can’t be protecta.

it does look like one of the grisettes with a friable UV though, so at this point, “cecilea group” is our best bet.

Undescribed sp?
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Created: 2012-05-29 22:36:07 EDT (-0400)
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
Summary: No gray gill edges

As well as no gray in the cap, sunlight or not. This cap is brassy brown.

Thanks for the input, I’ll look further!
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Created: 2012-05-29 22:29:29 EDT (-0400)
By: Darvin DeShazer (darv)
Summary: A. protecta

Still seems to fit Amanita protecta. The color of the cap could be biased by sunlight.
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Created: 2012-05-29 21:17:46 EDT (-0400)
By: vjp
Summary: Nothing

intelligent to add, but, nice pictures and write up!
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Created: 2012-05-29 20:52:26 EDT (-0400)
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
Summary: Anyone know of anything in the PNW

This could be aside from A. cecilae group?
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Created: 2012-05-29 13:51:47 EDT (-0400)
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
Summary: Any further input?

Anything else to scope that could help put a name on this guy?
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Created: 2012-05-28 16:36:35 EDT (-0400)
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
Summary: Spore photo added, more to come

Quick spore shot at 400x, will do more work later.
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Created: 2012-05-28 13:40:49 EDT (-0400)
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
Summary: Spores are round

Will post photos and more info later.
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Created: 2012-05-27 14:16:42 EDT (-0400)
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
Summary: Amanitas from same location:

Here are some Amanita’s from the same spot (within five feet), in the past

http://mushroomobserver.org/69292?q=GWlx

http://mushroomobserver.org/69292?q=GWlx
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Created: 2012-05-27 14:01:43 EDT (-0400)
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
Summary: Is there a good microscopic way….

To determine at least which section this belongs to? I can only go to 400×.
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Created: 2012-05-27 13:48:25 EDT (-0400)
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
Summary: ambiguous

yeah, OK, could just be UV pulled up the stipe, mimicing an annulus.

don’t think that it’s a protecta, though, although prob. something in that group. protecta should redden in all parts with age, and i have never seen a protecta with a tawny cap like this one. the dark stipe ornamentation fits, though.

striate margin is not very dramatic, but hey, variability happens.
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Created: 2012-05-26 16:02:08 EDT (-0400)
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
Summary: I will look more closey at it later

And throw it under the scope as well. Thanks for your input.
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Created: 2012-05-26 15:26:28 EDT (-0400)
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
Summary: I don’t

see this as a true annulus, merely remnants of a universal veil. If you google and check other pictures of ceciliae, you’ll find it typical for the species (or species group?).
- and if it had been an annulus, it doesn’t turn grey in A. pantherina, which also should have a persistent volva with a sharp margin.

It bothers me though, that the cap margin isn’t as striate as expected..
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Created: 2012-05-26 13:13:39 EDT (-0400)
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
Summary: annulus?

then it can’t be ceciliae group, although just looking at the very first photo I thought the same thing as you, Irene.

with that annulus though, just a pretty beat up panther type. even panthers, at least here in NA, can have striate cap margins.
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Created: 2012-05-25 17:32:54 EDT (-0400)
Last modified: 2012-06-13 15:27:56 EDT (-0400)
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