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Observation: Agaricus bernardii Quél. (24053)
About Agaricus bernardii Quél.
Public Description (default) [Edit]
When: 2009-08-05
Collection location: Santa Cruz, California, USA [Click for map]
Who: Shane (Mushane)
No herbarium specimen

Notes: foul smell, not “inky” but nasty

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Proposed Name User Community Vote
  Mushane   0% (4)  
Recognized by sight
  Alan Rockefeller   -10% (3)  
Recognized by sight: Veil not well developed
  darv   52% (3)   Eye3Eyes3
Recognized by sight: Reddening of the flesh above the gills & strong odor.
  amanitarita   28% (1)  
Recognized by sight: wild guess…faint(not pronounced) reddening, somewhat fluffy-looking cap similar to the Agaricus sp. collected by Allen in the South Bay last fall…and thought by Kerrigan to maybe be a rare reddening sp., A. pilosporus. young and mature collections would be important to determine true identity. this COULD be something rare!
here’s the link to the prior sighting…
http://mushroomobserver.org/13468?search_seq=636868

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Created: 2009-08-07 23:08:20 WET (+0000)
By: Shane (Mushane)
Summary: yep

ill be sure to keep my eyes peeled for another, I was quite surprised to find it with the lack of rain.

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Created: 2009-08-07 19:22:04 WET (+0000)
By: debbie viess (amanitarita)
Summary: ID still open to question…

younger material would help. the iodine odor in bernardii is quite distinctive, but old half-rotten mushrooms kinda confuse the issue. most of the bernardii that I have collected also usually have a cracked cap (this one doesn’t) but that feature may be more related to humidity and sun exposure than ID. and I was under the impression that ONLY bernardii stained reddish, not bitorquis, altho the “staining” shown in the photos is pretty subtle.

please go back and look for more, Shane! Inquiring minds, and all that…

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Created: 2009-08-07 18:46:56 WET (+0000)
By: Dimitar Bojantchev (dimitar)
Summary: Close.

I’ve seen both bitorquis and bernardii near the bay. I think there are also some new species in that group that Kerrigan will report at some point. But to be able to make sure it should be sliced as bernardii has a more pronounced rufescense. Otherwise I’d stick to bitorquis as the most likely scenario. Both have very similar veils. This is clearly not campestris. [LET ME EDIT: not so clearly not campestris, but the ratio of cap vs. stem and other features, doesn’t look like it]

D.
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Created: 2009-08-07 18:24:09 WET (+0000)
By: debbie viess (amanitarita)
Summary: interesting, Gerhard! we get them here in lawns around the salty Bay…

and I’d imagine that they use a LOT of salt in the roadways in the Denver area.

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Created: 2009-08-07 16:26:06 WET (+0000)
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
Summary: A. bernardii is fruiting in areas with high salt percentage like roadsides …

…. at least in Europe, and I know people who are eating it. See my observationhttp://mushroomobserver.org/...
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Created: 2009-08-07 14:05:45 WET (+0000)
By: debbie viess (amanitarita)
Summary: if bernardii, you’ll be horrified to hear that it’s an excellant edible!

its odor is often described as “briny” or like iodine. it was fruiting abundantly in the Denver area in June.

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Created: 2009-08-07 09:08:19 WET (+0000)
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
Summary: Two rings..?

This looks like the one I call Agaricus bitorquis. It has one thin, but rather persistent ring, and a thinner and more evanescent one below, that is directed upwards.
Very young ones have an agreeable smell, but it soon turns to foul.


Created: 2009-08-07 08:22:17 WET (+0000)
By: Shane (Mushane)
Summary: hmm

I thought campestris myself, I figured the bad rotting odor might be because of its age

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Created: 2009-08-07 04:36:17 WET (+0000)
Last modified: 2009-08-07 04:36:17 WET (+0000)
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