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Observation: Amanita sp. (section Caesareae) (25750)
About Amanita (section Caesareae)
When: 2009-09-22
Collection location: Big Thicket, Polk Co., Texas, USA [Click for map]
Who: Ron Pastorino (Ronpast)
No herbarium specimen

Notes: There were a fair number of these mostly under pines. Some had rather prominent umbos.

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Proposed Name User Community Vote
  Ronpast   50% (6)   Eye3
Recognized by sight
  ret   83% (3)   Eyes3
Recognized by sight: Because the species within stirps Hemibapha of sect. Caesareae (the “Slender Caesars”) are differentiated to such a great extent by colors, bruising, and spore size and shape, I still find the color combination in these images too different from that in A. jacksonii to go for the latter name as a definitive ID.

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Created: 2009-10-07 20:19:52 WET (+0000)
By: ret
Summary: Because of Sartory and L. Maire…

Thank you for raising the question.

In some field guides you will see a species called Squamanita umbonata (Sumst.) Bas. At one point in the history of this strange fungus, it was assigned to Amanita [as A. umbonata (Sumst.) Sartory & L. Maire]. This was before Pomerleau thought of naming A. umbonata Pomerleau.

Hence, Pomerleau had unknowlingly created a posterior homonym. Such a name cannot be accepted as correct. Hence, when Pomerleau learned that there had been a previous use of the combination “Amanita umbonata,” he had to change his name to a new one and picked the epithet “jacksonii.”

This story falls into the (large) “stuff happens” category of mycological nomenclature.

Very best,

Rod


Created: 2009-10-07 18:42:43 WET (+0000)
By: Herbert Baker (Herbert Baker)
Summary: Rod

Question.., Why doesn’t the earlier Amanita umbonata (Sumst.) Sartory & L. Maire (1923) take precedence over A. jacksonii? Thanks

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Created: 2009-10-07 03:38:55 WET (+0000)
By: Ron Pastorino (Ronpast)
Summary: Spore photo added..

The spores were inamyloid. They were broadly ellipsoid and approx. 8.6 X 6.8 microns. That does at least put them in the range of Amanita jacksonii.
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Created: 2009-09-29 03:26:09 WET (+0000)
By: ret
Summary: see 23799

r.



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