Observation 106321: Faerberia carbonaria (Alb. & Schwein.) Pouzar [as ‘carboniaria’],
When: 2012-08-11
Herbarium specimen reported

Notes: Found on burnt ground under pine and d. fir.

Found at 8000 ft. in the Chiricahua Mountains. The year before, from May to June over 200k acres of the area burned down, the whole landscape was burnt ground, where these were found. But as far as I can tell this is the first obs. of this species from anywhere in North America. If anyone knows of a siting in North America, can you pass it along. The species is rarely sited from Europe, but has been seen in most countries there on burnt ground, or bonfires.

The thin black-grey-brown pileus, and the lighter hymenium with rather random wrinkles makes this a good id. The “gills” are too shallow to be real gills, and they randomly branch and join.

One of the weirder things I’ve found, but it seem normal enough just out in the middle of the ground in the forest there. All natural forest, many miles from any human landscaping or introduced habitat, so I would think a naturally appearing species here.

8/20/2012 – adding some microscopic details.

The first micro-shot is of the fertile surface at 400x in Meltzer’s. This is almost a clear id in one shot. The cystidia are incrusted setae, and dextrinoid, they are present at all places on the hymenium. The pileus context is dimitic, with thick-walled structural hyphae interwoven with the regular hyphae.

The second micro-shot is of the fertile surface at 1000x in Meltzer’s. There are a few spores here, which are ellipsoid to cylidrical, smooth, hyaline. The apr. size is 8 × 4 um.

This all agrees with sources, at least Funga Nordica p72.

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not a first for North America…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2014-02-21 20:07:29 GMT (+0000)

collections have also been made in Mexico. See Mycobank for details:


really cool, and thanks for your talk last night at BAMS.
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2014-02-21 19:56:59 GMT (+0000)

I never saw this when it first popped here.

So, the Chiricahuas share mycota (and plants and animals) with Mexico which shares mycota w/Europe?

Does it occur on any burnt ground in Europe, or just at elevation?

No way was this introduced, so it was apparently just waiting around for a fruiting opportunity. Too bad the Chiricahauas had to burn to the ground to make it pop.

But obviously a few trees made it through at Rustler Park, to have these various MR mushrooms.

Nice work on this obsie. Hope you got that specimen to an herbarium. :)

By: Scott T. Bates (stbates)
2012-08-24 03:55:15 BST (+0100)

Hi Douglas – awesome find! I’ll add this one to the Arizona Checklist – good old Rustler Park….

Oh. wait…
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2012-08-23 22:07:33 BST (+0100)

Were you asking if I had any specimens? Yes, I do have the dried collection, I very often forget to check the specimen available box.

Thats what I’m saying…
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2012-08-22 21:23:47 BST (+0100)

Well, thats what I wonder, and or think at this point. I checked the sources I have on Faerberia, they only mention Europe. I asked people from the east about finding it there, nope. I asked about people finding it in California before, nope. Did a google search to see if there are any types of reports on-line about finding it in North America, nope. In the 30 years of collecting at Yuba pass, and all the burn areas over the years up there, nope.

Not a complete search no, but still didn’t see anyone mention these as being found in North America. If you point me to how, I could keep asking and see if I could track any down. But they didn’t seem to come up as something found by the amateur community in North America.

voucher specimen?
By: else
2012-08-22 20:29:23 BST (+0100)

Are you serious in saying that there is NO herbarium specimen? new for North America, and no voucher?

By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2012-08-22 19:40:49 BST (+0100)

This is the second time I’ve found this one actually, it has already appeared here before. On MO I mean, I found it in Europe, first time seeing it in North America.

By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2012-08-22 18:45:25 BST (+0100)

I read about this in the Jan Borovicka’s club journal recently and have been wondering how long it would take to show up on here.

Cool find
By: Tom Bruns (pogon)
2012-08-22 18:43:30 BST (+0100)

I’ve near hear of this one, but I just looked it up on Index Fungorum and apparently it is currently in the Polyporaceae, and had been called a Cantharellus at one time. Very cool!

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