Observation 111046: Amanita sect. Validae (Fr.) Singer
When: 2012-09-23
Herbarium specimen reported

Notes: N. 39.3526 W. -87.7077

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Material received.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2012-09-28 16:36:48 CDT (-0500)

Thank you, Patrick.

Very best,


It’s the cap color that makes me hesitate to go for pophyria.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2012-09-24 10:41:42 CDT (-0500)

Dave, you’re right about the gray partial veil in porphyria sometimes becoming more distinct in age; however, there is gray on the margin (at least) of the ring from early on.

This specimen makes me think a little of a small brunnescens or a light-colored specimen of A. solaniolens.


First four pics remind me of…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2012-09-24 10:14:25 CDT (-0500)

A. porphyria, except for the white stipe, and white ring. Not sure about whether the gray tones develop as porphyria matures.

I will split those out
By: Patrick Harvey (pg_harvey)
2012-09-24 10:13:12 CDT (-0500)

I will split those out into a second observation, and do so with the
samples also.

I hadn’t seen the second half of the pictures. I agree with David’s observation.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2012-09-24 10:06:21 CDT (-0500)

The bottom four pictures might show a pink-spored taxon. or a pink-gilled species of Amanita, which exist in sections Vaginatae (not a candidate here because of the membranous partial veil), Caesareae, and Phalloideae.

Whatever grouping is appropriate for the entity in the second four pix, it is not sect. Validae, which I still think is appropriate for the first four pix.

Very best,


The two photos of stipe base…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2012-09-24 08:21:28 CDT (-0500)

appear to show different specimens. The one photo shows a splitting bulb. The other photo appears to show a volva with free limb.

It looks like there is a true bulb at the stipe base.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2012-09-23 23:12:45 CDT (-0500)

Possibly it is splitting as in A. brunnescens. This suggests the species could be in Amanita sect. Validae.


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