Observation 11661: Lacrymaria lacrymabunda (Bull.) Pat.
When: 2008-09-29
Collection location: Bavaria, Germany [Click for map]
Who: AL'S (Sig)
No herbarium specimen

Notes: The Cap Is Warm-Tan From 2to5cm ,The Stem(3to5cm)long has no Bruises when picked, The Gills are Dark-Warm-Brown. The Fungi is growing on the Lawn Clustered . Spore Print is Black .

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Recognized by sight: There are several observations on this site. Psathyrella echineps is also possible. According to Darv (see Observation 4533) they’re differentiated by the color of the fibrils on the pileus. P. echineps has darker fibrils that contrast more with the color of the cap.

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even cortinarius have exceptions to the rule…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2008-09-29 19:13:20 CEST (+0200)

…see Cortinarius caperatus, the former Rozites caperata, which has a membranous, not fibrillose, partial veil.

This one has been through many name changes; the current one is an old name from the 1800s!
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2008-09-29 19:10:07 CEST (+0200)

As to the ID…a distinctive feature is the mottled gills with white edges.

Arora describes the veil in this mushroom (listed as Psathyrella velutina in MDM)as “fibrillous-cottony” and in fact many mushrooms other than corts can have a cortina…like the hygrophorus. I have even seen cottony fibrillose veils on amanitas!

rules are for our convenience, and the mushrooms don’t necessarily obey them.

Cortinas are multitude…
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2008-09-29 18:46:15 CEST (+0200)

The genera with species that display a cortina are multitude. Actually these here would get classified as a fibrous partial veil, but not really a cortina, and this id is pretty good (if you can, check for warted spores. I think I posted a fairly good photos of the spores here…). A cortina should be fibrous, but also attach to the stipe over a largish area, not just in a single ring, like attach to parts of the whole top 1/3 of the stipe. (At least this would be my def.)

A number of genera display this, Cortinarius displays it for all species though.
(What ones? it is there for a number of Inocybes although slight, Galerinas also, I guess Kuehneromyces would be called that, Only the two species of Tricholoma (at least for the west, are there more in other places?), Some Hygrophorus, and others I’m sure…)

Cortina
By: Paul Derbyshire (Twizzler)
2008-09-29 18:27:14 CEST (+0200)

One young one clearly has a cobwebby partial veil.

Is this a sign of misidentification here, or do I need to add Lacrymaria to the list of genera with cortinas? (MushroomExpert indicates Cortinarius is the main genus with easily noticeable ones leaving discernible remnants on mature specimens, and Inocybe have cortinas when young; some Tricholomas too.)

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