Observation 117165: Cuphophyllus colemannianus (A. Bloxam) Bon
When: 2012-11-18
(35.5618° -84.2371° 259m)
Herbarium specimen reported

Notes: On soil under Juniperus virginiana.


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what a diff a new picture makes, eh?
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2012-11-20 09:50:19 EST (-0500)

its all in the lighting and camera angles!

I agree, colemannianus is the most likely ID here, even w/out an umbo.

But DNA would help to confirm. Got lab, Christine? ;)

The new picture
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2012-11-20 03:13:26 EST (-0500)

shows the angle I was missing to be confident, thanks Christine!

Camarophyllus colemannianus
By: Christine Braaten (wintersbefore)
2012-11-19 17:44:12 EST (-0500)

seems likely because “the combination of reddish brown cap, white to pale brown stalk, and broadly ellipsoid spores” make it distinctive. Images added.

This cannot be C. pratensis.
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2012-11-19 13:30:36 EST (-0500)

C. pratensis is a brightly orange colored rather dry fungus with strongly interfurcate gills, at least at the bottom of them. And it is colored in one color throughout, cap, gills, flesh and stipe all orange (sometimes a little paler but never pinkish!). This has to be something different. Could be a Camarophyllus/Hygrocybe though but even that seems not sure to me.

what about the lack of an umbo here?
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2012-11-19 13:25:11 EST (-0500)
I know about colemanniana
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2012-11-19 13:12:49 EST (-0500)

that it can vary a lot from pale to dark, and have different brown colours.
Here’s one example:
http://www.artfakta.se/SpeciesFact.aspx?TaxonId=796

Photos
By: Christine Braaten (wintersbefore)
2012-11-19 12:14:43 EST (-0500)

Thanks for the compliments on the photo, its possible they could be misleading. I will take some “lab photos” of these now that they are dry and have been in the fridge and that might reveal a little more about the cap color. These may be a bit darker than is visible in the photo. I will also update with some measurements and some micro work. Thanks for looking at this!

hold on now…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2012-11-19 10:57:53 EST (-0500)

I wasn’t so sure about this being praetensis, mostly because of the fact it looked so viscid (BTW, GREAT shot, Christine!) but colemanniana???

Maybe your European versions look like this, Irene, but Christine’s lovely hygroph does not have the characters for our NA version: a “distinctly umbonate, reddish brown to orange brown to darker cinnamon brown or date brown cap with a darker center, and highly intervenous gills.”

Check out pgs. 24-25 and 93 in the Bessettes Wax Caps of North America book for more details.

Thanks Irene!
By: Christine Braaten (wintersbefore)
2012-11-19 09:07:08 EST (-0500)
Reminds of
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2012-11-19 03:37:28 EST (-0500)

another Camarophyllus, (colemannianus) / Hygrocybe colemanniana.
It’s cap is usually darker in the middle, like with an “eye”.

yes
By: Christine Braaten (wintersbefore)
2012-11-19 01:23:20 EST (-0500)

The mushroom was wet, not viscid.

was it raining
By: David Rust (incredulis)
2012-11-18 22:49:07 EST (-0500)

when your photo was taken? Any conjecture why the first photo mushroom looks so slimy?

David

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