Observation 119500: Pholiota (Fr.) P. Kumm.
When: 2012-12-09
No herbarium specimen
0 Sequences

Notes:
Growing on Alder stump on rotting wood. Scaly cap and stem. flesh white and rust, gill grey-tan. Pleasant smell is resinous and hint of cinnamon. Taste mild and slightly sweet.

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Recognized by sight: aromatic smell, viscid cap, conical scales
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Recognized by sight: needs micro for species.

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Pholiota squarrosoides
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2017-10-16 22:02:43 EDT (-0400)

Pholiota squarrosa is known for having a garlic odor. I have found that P.squarrosoides smells like grilled garlic chicken. I thought I was probably off base until I heard Pholiota expert Coleman McClenaghan say that it smells like chicken. Adding to its complex odor is that my wife detected a corn flake odor. I did not know that corn flakes had an odor but I agree there is a chemical in this species that has a corn flake odor. Odors are so complex and so subjective. Often mushroom odors can seem familiar but can’t be nailed down. The power of suggestion often results with “oh yes, that’s right”.

spicy fragrance
By: lauren (larana)
2017-10-16 18:45:22 EDT (-0400)

I found this thread (and signed up!) when searching pholiota and a spicy cinnamon-like smell (tho dif. than matsutake) – I just picked 2 groups of pholiota (sorry no pictures yet – I have no wifi at home), and one was quite similar to these, but much brighter yellow. By all visual descriptions, I would have put it somewhere near aurivella (but more scales), or flammans (but scales a bit darker than yellow). Various mushroom guides suggest that there may be a few sub-species or varieties of general golden pholiotas – but I didn’t see any references to smell! Back to the 2 groups – the second cluster I picked, much younger, did not seem to have this really distinctive spicy fragrant smell. Any thoughts? Lauren

Mark-
By: Drew Henderson (Hendre17)
2017-09-29 18:46:43 EDT (-0400)

I know this post was from years ago, but thought I’d give a simple separation between our bristly Pholiota here in WA. The “greasy” capped bristly Pholiota is P. Squarrasoides and the completely buff/dry and densely squamose/bristled Pholiota are P. Squarrosa. The slimy one’s get the " oides " I always say ;). Another common bristly Pholiota are very similar to the greasy P. Squarrasoides but are far smaller and more orange hued to caps=P. Limonella or syn. P. Aurivella. The only other bristly small species we also get is P. Flammens but it is certainly vibrant yellow and very easily separated by its universally canary yellow coloration and overall flocculent(not distinctly bristled) caps. Hope hat you did indeed clone and grow a few of them and had great success. I have eaten both P. Squarrosa and P. Squarrasoides but found them to be bland but with decent texture. Happy hunting here in Western WA :)

I ate them
By: Mark Lee (EdibleGuy)
2012-12-12 13:24:04 EST (-0500)

After three days in the frig, these mushrooms still had a spicy sweet fragrance. I am pretty confident that this is Pholiota squarrosoides. Last night I decided to eat them. I sauteed the caps and stems in olive oil for about 5 minutes on high heat. Excellent flavor, though they lost the spicy fragrance. After cooking, the flavor and texture of the caps reminded me of the chunk of fat on a steak that gets crunchy-charred on the outside, and savory-gooey on the inside. The stems were tasty too. It digested well. I want more.

I am attempting to clone this one.

Edibility
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2012-12-09 20:19:28 EST (-0500)

It has reportedly caused digestive problems for some. I have eaten it without any issues but it was bland tasting…

any experience eating?
By: Mark Lee (EdibleGuy)
2012-12-09 17:45:10 EST (-0500)

I will seek a local expert for an in-person ID. I already grow Pholiota nameko. I may try to clone this Pholiota squarrosoides or start from spores if I hear a good report on good an edible this is. Any personal experience eating this one. I love how this one smells fresh.

I was thinking Pholiota squarrosoides
By: Mark Lee (EdibleGuy)
2012-12-09 17:30:09 EST (-0500)

How do I tell the difference between Pholiota squarrosoides and Pholiota squarrosa?

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