Observation 12126: Lentinus bertieri (Fr.) Fr.
When: 2008-10-06
No herbarium specimen

Proposed Names

22% (5)
Eye3
Recognized by sight
-77% (4)
Recognized by sight: a nice, furry one
56% (1)
Eyes3
Recognized by sight: densely strigose/villose & initially involute margin, blackish stipe base, neotropical distribution
Used references: Pegler, D. N. 1983. “The genus Lentinus: a world monograph.” Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew, London, England. 281 pp.

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Eye3 = Observer’s choice
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By: Danny Newman (myxomop)
2012-06-03 03:53:53 EDT (-0400)

which is, contrary to Roger’s Mushrooms, described as

“closely radially striate to strigose, not distinctly squamose, sun glabrescent and silky shining in the centre; margin straight or arcuate, inflexed but not involute or only slightly so. in addition the stipe “surface [is] generally paler than pileus, white scurfy floccose, finally glabrescent, sometimes with a few, minute, dark brown, appressed fibrillose squamules toward the base.” (emphasis mine)

in Pegler’s 1983 monograph.

thanks guys, great data.
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2008-10-07 20:52:09 EDT (-0400)
Species Descriptions
By: Darvin DeShazer (darv)
2008-10-07 20:24:19 EDT (-0400)

Pegler, D. N. 1983. The Genus Lentinus: A World Monograph. Her Majesty’s Stationery Office, Edinburgh, England. 281p.

Metzler, S. and V. Metzler. 1992. Texas Mushrooms: a Field Guide. Univ. of Texas Press, Austin, Texas. 350p. (Listed as Panus crinitis)

Species Description
By: Ron Pastorino (Ronpast)
2008-10-07 19:42:23 EDT (-0400)

Another description for Lentinus crinitis with photos can be found in; Mushrooms of the Southeastern United States by Bessette, et al.

GIll color
By: Paul Derbyshire (Twizzler)
2008-10-07 11:43:23 EDT (-0400)

White gills in maturity is difficult to reconcile with any other spore drop than white or very pale. Mature gill color has two contributions: spore color and gill tissue pigmentation. And it’s subtractive, as usual when mixing pigments. So all three of dark gills with light spores, dark gills with dark spores, and light gills with light spores will be common, but light gills with dark spores is nigh-impossible, unless looking at immature gills.

See obs. 11402, photos 5, 6, and 7 — lilac gills turning brown on successively more mature specimens, but with the gill edges staying lilac, on Cortinarius alboviolaceus, whose gill pigmentation is a pale lilac but whose spores are brown.

P.S. Nice photos!

Description of the species
By: J. Williams (jwilliams)
2008-10-07 11:04:30 EDT (-0400)

location: North America, Europe
edibility: Inedible
fungus colour: Grey to beige
normal size: Less than 5cm
cap type: Funnel shaped
spore colour: White, cream or yellowish
habitat: Grows on wood

Lentinus crinitis (Fr.) Fr. Cap 1-4cm across, funnel-shaped or with a deeply depressed center and a somewhat wavy margin; yellowish brown to dark reddish brown; covered with dense, stiff brown hairs. Gills decurrent, very crowded, narrow; whitish to slightly yellowish. Stem 10-40 × 2-6mm, slightly expanded at base and apex, sometimes a little twisted; similar color to cap or paler; white cottony-scurfy with a few tiny dark hairs at the base. Flesh thin, tough; whitish. Spores narrow, cylindric, 5.5-7 × 1.8-2.7. Deposit white. Habitat scattered or in groups on dead wood. Frequent. Found in Europe and along the Gulf of Mexico. Season July-August. Not edible although Brazilian Indians are reported to eat it boiled. (from rogers; link didn’t work)

If you don’t mind me asking, how can you tell about the white spores?

where can one find a species description on this “tropical” mushroom?
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2008-10-07 10:32:24 EDT (-0400)

I concede the pholiota point entirely (didn’t look at the whole series of photos), but still curious about the ID. Gorgeously hairy creature, certainly with a white sporedrop. And I can just barely make out the serrate gills…

Ditto!
By: Daniel B. Wheeler (Tuberale)
2008-10-07 01:10:38 EDT (-0400)

They are great photos! Thanks for posting them.

Whatever they are
By: Debbie Drechsler (debdrex)
2008-10-06 21:53:19 EDT (-0400)

they’re really fascinating. Thanks for the great photos!

No print; tough
By: J. Williams (jwilliams)
2008-10-06 21:23:58 EDT (-0400)

I didn’t take a print of them. But the stems were extremely tough. More so than most other mushrooms i’ve come across

Meant to say “Lentinus” crinitis
By: Ron Pastorino (Ronpast)
2008-10-06 20:56:12 EDT (-0400)
Still looks like a Lentinus crinitis to me. White spore print?
Maybe Lentinellus crinitis
By: Ron Pastorino (Ronpast)
2008-10-06 19:55:23 EDT (-0400)
If it’s tough and leathery it could be Lentinellus crinitis, which is pretty common on the Gulf Coast and there are several photos on MO. Ron
Armillaria or Tricholomopsis
By: Daniel B. Wheeler (Tuberale)
2008-10-06 17:11:34 EDT (-0400)

Don’t believe Tricholomopsis with white gills. Don’t know many fibrillose Armillaria either. Could be near Armillaria tabescens, but I’ve never seen this with that many upright scales or fibrils. May be something new, at least to me.

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