Observation 122196: Gymnopilus P. Karst.
When: 2013-01-05

spores = 7.7 × 4.8

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By: Rocky Houghtby
2013-05-25 14:00:39 CDT (-0400)

The question was, would a translucent cell with colored contents be best considered Hyaline. This question is troublesome because you first have to answer the question of wether or not “brown contents” are a component of the cell, or merely contained within the cell.

By: Danny Newman (myxomop)
2013-05-25 13:44:46 CDT (-0400)

= colorless and transparent

i recently…
By: Richard and Danielle Kneal (bloodworm)
2013-01-25 20:40:48 CST (-0500)

read about some species of Gymnopilus with brown tinted cystidia.
i have to try and find the article again…
it is still unclear to me.
i’ll be scoping them again this weekend.

By: Rocky Houghtby
2013-01-25 19:43:37 CST (-0500)

Thats pretty much what I believe too. Though I’m reminded daily that what I believe is often wrong. I guess it would help to figure out what makes up a basidiole.

Hesler’s general description of basidioles in Gymnopilus is beyond vague. The man made an art out of being vague.
I believe hyaline
By: Josh M.K. (suchen)
2013-01-25 18:53:25 CST (-0500)

means the cell itself is transparent, regardless of its “contents” if that makes sense. A completely clear cell if the “contents” are removed perhaps.

By: Rocky Houghtby
2013-01-25 18:34:30 CST (-0500)

The word Hyaline imply a lack of color? Or just a degree of transparency? I need to know this and can’t seem to find the answer on my own.

By: Rocky Houghtby
2013-01-09 20:44:46 CST (-0500)

In Gymnopilus have “brown cell contents”. Would hyaline still be the best term with which to describe them?

By: Richard and Danielle Kneal (bloodworm)
2013-01-09 20:19:31 CST (-0500)

but i don’t think so.
1 is brown and the other is identical in shape and size.
there is no account for brown cystidia in the genus.

The bottom two pics are capitate cystidia
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2013-01-09 20:14:30 CST (-0500)

Basidioles would be hyaline and would not have a ball on the apex

By: Richard and Danielle Kneal (bloodworm)
2013-01-09 20:02:06 CST (-0500)

i still have to see more of these under the scope.
i don’t believe those to be cystidia at all.
i think they are basidioles.
i think either pleuro, cheilo or both may be lacking.
but, like i said, i have to look at them again…

Please label your micrographs
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2013-01-09 19:18:14 CST (-0500)

Otherwise we have no way of knowing whether the cystidia pictured is cheilocystidia, pleurocystidia, caulocystidia or pileocystidia.

Nice ideas
By: Justin (Tmethyl)
2013-01-09 18:36:22 CST (-0500)

I’d go with Gymnopilus onalog

By: Richard and Danielle Kneal (bloodworm)
2013-01-08 20:06:36 CST (-0500)

good idea.

By: Randy Longnecker (Randy L.)
2013-01-08 20:04:57 CST (-0500)

Then you can call em Gym Bob :)

what about Alanii…
By: Richard and Danielle Kneal (bloodworm)
2013-01-08 19:54:45 CST (-0500)

just to be creative…

I suggest Tom
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2013-01-08 19:52:49 CST (-0500)

Other naming suggestions include Fred or Rover.

By: Justin (Tmethyl)
2013-01-08 19:23:44 CST (-0500)

What are you going to name it? :D

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