Observation 123143: Hygrocybe singeri (A.H. Sm. & Hesler) Singer

When: 2013-01-20

Seen at: SOMA Camp, Sonoma Co., California, USA [Click for map]

Who: George Riner (mycogeo)

No specimen available

Lots of these were collected over the weekend.

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By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2013-01-24 12:25:04 CST (-0500)

the data was not published (which I think is the case), or the authors went for familiar names and morphological concepts rather than modern data.

I think it’s important for everyone in western N. America to keep in mind that much of what we know is not ‘correct’ in the strictest sense, and to prepare for a lot of name changes (but also to scrutinize those that do come along).

I should have checked my…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2013-01-23 20:16:52 CST (-0500)

Bessette guide to eastern NA waxycaps; forgot that I had recently added this book to my collection! Sorry for posing a question that I could have answered myself.

At any rate, the Bessette guide reports H. singeri var. singeri (synynom H. singeri) as having been collected in Michigan and New York. Habitat is reported as wet areas, sphagnum mosses, bogs… I don’t recall previously ever having run across the name.

Christian, your comment about Lodge’s genetic data failing to confirm H. conica in NA seems interesting. The Bessette eastern NA guide includes H. conica var. conica and H. conica var. atrosanguinea. Maybe the genetic study occurred after the book had been submitted for printing?

By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2013-01-23 13:43:21 CST (-0500)

I don’t necessarily agree with Kuo in that assessment.
A lot of the western coast stuff seems fairly restricted (and especially sapros with redwood, although this species grows with other trees too).

As Mike mentioned recently, Lodge’s genetic data do not indicate any H. conica in North America.

This is a good example of the problem with attempting to separate species by descriptions and in absence of field experience with both taxa in their (presumable) strict sense.

Actually, checking on Mushoom Expert…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2013-01-23 13:30:44 CST (-0500)

Kuo says H. singeri is probably widely distributed. He calls it a slimy version of H. conica. Seems like it may be easy to confuse these two if an ID is based solely upon macro characters.

It’s a fairly old name
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2013-01-23 00:18:32 CST (-0500)


Ha! I’m guessing on both accounts…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2013-01-22 21:02:14 CST (-0500)

So it’s a new name, but applied to a western NA species.

By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2013-01-22 20:52:59 CST (-0500)

you got it.

Is H. singeri a new (NA?) name for H. conica,
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2013-01-22 19:30:03 CST (-0500)

or is singeri a different west coast species?

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