Observation 127768: Cortinarius subgenus Telamonia (Fr.) Trog

When: 2013-02-04

Collection location: Braga, Portugal [Click for map]

Who: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)

Specimen available

Ring zone on stipe. Fruity(?) smell when cutted (cap). Cap ±3 cm, stipe ±3 cm. Under oak.

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Sumário :) :)
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-04 15:13:24 CST (-0500)

I got it now. Cool idea! But I do not think it will be very successful ;)

By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-02-04 15:05:14 CST (-0500)

Ho, public collection of money to afford a micro… “mushrooming” is a escape for me to forget the life of an unemployed. Get it now?

What do you mean by that? I do not get it.
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-04 14:45:08 CST (-0500)

You collect it and make an exsiccatum for a museum’s fungary? Right?

By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-02-04 13:45:37 CST (-0500)

I am thinking of making a public collection … What do you think? : p it was for a good cause, right?

So you would have to buy one
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-04 08:05:26 CST (-0500)

yourself ;)

By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-02-04 08:02:11 CST (-0500)
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-04 07:52:30 CST (-0500)

it is clearly a Telamonia.
Just look at the somewhat nigrescent stripes on the cap this is one of the typical decolorations for this genus. Furthermore, the color of the gills are never that yellow reddish in Inocybe, at least not in European ones.
Do you have any connections to someone with a scope?

I was
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-02-04 07:47:43 CST (-0500)

more inclined to inocybe, couldn’t it be? Reason: overall structure, specially the stipe that crumbles.

By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-04 07:36:21 CST (-0500)

you can rule out C. hinnuleus AND C. duracinus.
But it is quite impossible to get a final ID. No young specimen to really clarify velum color is always bad. Telamonia is one heck of a subgenus and almost impossible to determine if you are not dedicating your life and essence to it ;)
I do not know if there is one here on M.O. who would be able to ID without microscopic details and all the stuff I mentioned.
In my former comment I forgot about mycorrhiza too. Tree host is also important though not that important as other features IMO.

By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-02-04 07:29:33 CST (-0500)

Smell – is strong but just when it’s cutted. I don’t know how to define, but it is fragrant or juicy.
Cap is a litle elastic, stipe fragile, fibrous, not dense, hollow. I didn’t see any velum rests on stipe. Ring zone brown and straight. No young specimen nearby to assess.

What about smell?
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-04 07:20:44 CST (-0500)

Smell is very important. Was it mouldy-dusty or pleasant or indistinctive, like radish or sheer mushroomy?
Furthermore, consistency of the fruitbody: fragile or elastic (especially the stipe!).
Could be something close to C. duracinus or to C. hinnuleus.
Was the ringlike zone on the stem diagonal or straight? What color has the velum when young? Was there a velum?
Was the stem hollow or full?
And so on, and so on … ;)

But we will to no safe conclusion without spore form etc. anyways.

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