Observation 129433: Peniophora quercina (Persoon) Cooke

When: 2013-02-24

Collection location: Braga, Portugal [Click for map]

Who: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)

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On a cutted oak branch

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Try to get in contact with Ireneia Melo.
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-03-07 07:20:59 PST (-0800)

I know her from my forays in France as well as the other mycologists from this paper (from Spain):


They are specialised in Corticiaceae and are among the best in whole of Europe.
I think you will find her address somewhere on the net. I have her e-mail but I am not allowed to give it away before asking her. I will meet her again this November.

You made me
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-03-07 06:52:35 PST (-0800)

laugh now… I have my specimens on a shoe box, but each one packed separately and properly labeled. I don’t know any institution here, but I’m going to search, thanks.

Voucher specimens
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2013-03-07 06:43:37 PST (-0800)

Many thanks for your answer. I look at Mushroom Observer as a great tool for storing all the information that goes with the original SPECIMENs. Some time ago, one of the MO gurus labelled herbarium specimens as something stored in a shoe box, [i.e., not worth any attention] and I was sad when I read it. Are you in touch with any mycological institution (I mean mycological herbarium) in Portugal that you would give them your specimens? Try to contact them! Adolf

By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-03-07 06:26:45 PST (-0800)

you’re right, I’m improving on that. Most of my observations are previous to my submission to this site, others I forgot to save a specimen, but lately I have been making an effort to remember saving specimens, and some have support specimens and I didn’t update yet, as this one. Thank you.

Supporting specimen?
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2013-03-07 05:59:45 PST (-0800)

When I wrote my comment, this observation was labelled as having no specimen. Only about an hour ago, the specimen has been added.
“Specimen added by pinknailsgirl: Peniophora quercina: 129433
an hour ago” says the log goiung with your MO observation.
In my not too humble opinion, MO observations without voucher specimens are totally useless, especially for those groups where you need microscopic examination.
I am glad that you found the voucher for this observation.
I consider Mushroom Observer as a great tool for filing the photos, micropgraphs, drawings and all additional data that should go with the real herbarium specimens.
When I look at your submissions, you have 11 observations (out of 254) that have voucher specimens. I am sure you can do better. Adolf

What do you mean with “supporting specimen”?
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-03-07 04:23:08 PST (-0800)
What do you mean with “supporting specimen”?
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-03-07 04:23:04 PST (-0800)
Pretty photos
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2013-03-06 18:55:59 PST (-0800)

Pretty photos, but totally useless without a supporting specimen. Adolf

Post it anyways
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-24 13:46:09 PST (-0800)

and call it tentatively Peniophora incarnata ;)

I only have a
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-02-24 13:28:30 PST (-0800)

twig with the first observation, the second I left there.

So where is your second observation?
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-24 13:23:10 PST (-0800)

Post it separately.
You didn’t keep it I suppose?

It is difficult to say
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-02-24 12:46:27 PST (-0800)

it was in the middle of the way, on the ground… and my knowledge about trees is minimal.

By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-24 12:39:31 PST (-0800)

I think it is Peniophora incarnata. But it can be something totally different too. Besides it seems to be a in a young initial stage. Maybe beginning Cylindrobasidium laeve. And the wood was the same? It somehow doesn’t look like oak.

I can
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-02-24 12:35:56 PST (-0800)

post the last one in a different observation, because it was a little bit ahead, it can be another thing.

Close your eyes ;)
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-24 12:27:09 PST (-0800)

the first three pics I also believe to be Peniophora quercina. Just would know the host.
The last pic is something different. Just look at the color of the fungus.

Close your eyes…
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-02-24 12:24:18 PST (-0800)

just a little bit, forget the lichen rs… look for that pinkish thing… what second fungi you see there? The host is oak, most probably.

Which host?
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-24 12:11:15 PST (-0800)

And it seems there are two fungi – I would say the one that cracks the bark is either a Vuilleminia or if the tree is Carpinus which I believe does not grow in Portugal? indeed a Peniophora but old. Besides in the first pic there is a lichen too, namely a Usnea I would say.

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