Observation 130474: Cortinarius calochrous group
When: 2012-10-06

Notes: Could be close to or matching CORTINARIUS CALOCHROUS VAR. CAROLI.

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Recognized by sight: mixed wood with oak, hornbeam, pine and spruce
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Stop…
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2013-03-20 14:16:21 MDT (-0600)

Stop obsessing on variation and exactitude, call them Cortinarius calochrous.

Yes, just now.
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-03-20 13:30:26 MDT (-0600)

And I get stuck with the calochrous-group as before but no exact match ;)

Have you tried
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2013-03-20 13:05:55 MDT (-0600)

the key here:
http://www.cortinarius.org ?

The key works fine, but I don’t think it covers all species yet..

Yes,
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2013-03-20 12:52:38 MDT (-0600)

it’s in MycoBank, but not as a “current name”, neither in Indexfungorum..

It’s still in our database,
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-03-20 12:32:02 MDT (-0600)

but I remember someone told me it has a new name now. I cannot find it in newer literature too. But it is still in mycobank.

I wonder
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2013-03-20 09:59:26 MDT (-0600)

what happened with caroli..? I used to have an idea of a species with very blue gills, but I can’t see anyone recognising this form anymore.

The original description of caroli is available in České houby, but I can’t read it. It looks too short anyway to be diagnostic for this difficult group.

There is also no file with C. provencalis in the database.
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-03-20 08:38:02 MDT (-0600)

But exsiccatum is at Vienna University although still not looked at.
I would almost say it is this species. I can’t remember if I applied KOH to it for on this day I had found other Phlegmacium and was in a hurry. I am afraid this reaction only works on the living specimen?
Then again we have a specialist in Vienna and I think she will be come to a conclusion nevertheless.

Could be hiding
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2013-03-20 08:21:30 MDT (-0600)

under the name provencalis..? Grows with oak, beech and hazel. Hornbeam is not mentioned, but species with hornbeam often goes with hazel too.
No reaction or just a weak brown with KOH makes it differ from most of the others in the calochrous group.

Indeed!
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-03-20 06:20:38 MDT (-0600)

Is this within the calochroi? What is the ecology of this species? In the Austrian database there is no such taxon.

Reminds of
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2013-03-20 06:03:56 MDT (-0600)

vesterholtii

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