Observation 131308: Peziza succosella (Le Gal & Romagn.) M.M. Moser ex Aviz.-Hersh. & Nemlich
When: 2013-04-04
Collection location: Braga, Portugal [Click for map]
No herbarium specimen

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Recognized by sight
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Recognized by sight: yellowing excipulum,color contrast,inner brown, outer white

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Could really be the better guess.
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-04-06 14:25:06 CDT (-0400)

I looked this species P. infuscata up and the German vernicular name of it is “Pyrenäen-Becherling”, i.e. Pyrenees cup fungus. I haven’t found it myself but it seems to be more mediterranean-atlantic than succosella.

Fascinating
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2013-04-06 13:36:43 CDT (-0400)

colour contrast! It made me rule out P. succosa at once, which has a more greyish hymenium. I don’t know much about the rest of the suggestions, but P. infuscata looks like a pretty good idea..

Nah
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-04-06 08:47:35 CDT (-0400)

don’t think so. Both can grow on pure naked soil or on burnt ground, both have approximately same color and size, both have warty spores only that of succosella are smaller and this species has colored paraphyses. No chance with the naked eye as far as I would say.
There are two more species but with considerably darker ascocarps:
P. infuscata (brownish red, dark brown to soot blackish with a conspicuously brighter outside (whitish to lemon yellow)

and

P. berthetiana with hymenium wine-violet, dark red to dark violet.

Is there
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-04-06 08:34:31 CDT (-0400)

any difference in habitats?

The first
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-04-06 08:24:44 CDT (-0400)

thing I noticed when I picked it, was the yellow green tones, so I will choose P. sucosella, but of course, I’m going to keep the sample and with some luck someone would micro it.

You have to choose now
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-04-06 08:17:17 CDT (-0400)

between P. succosa and P. succosella. First one is very common, second one (at least here in Austria) is very rare.
Final decision would bring microscope (I know as always but that’s the way it goes). The intriguing thing is to decide whether the color is just some shade of yellow with greenish hue or some shade of green with yellowish hue ;)

Paper
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-04-06 08:10:30 CDT (-0400)

turns to sulphur yellow. On photo is hard to see the green, looks more yellow, as it dries it’s more complicated to distinguish if yellow or yellowish green, but still bright.

This really looks more like
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-04-06 07:43:37 CDT (-0400)

Peziza succosella. But it is often difficult to discern. The color range between yellow and greenish is often not that clearly visible. That’s why in most cases a look at the micro features is unexpendable.
Milk is not very abundant. You should press the fruitbody for exuding and let a bit of it on say a paper handkerchief.
I would say it is not michelii or emileia for the colors do not match. So it has to have a milk IMHO unless there are other species I am not aware of right now.

The context turns yellow green
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-04-06 07:30:55 CDT (-0400)

when I cutted it in half. I didn’t see properly milk. I’m going to upload image. P. michelli was a suggested name, but the colors are lighter, right?

Peziza succosa:
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-04-06 07:18:54 CDT (-0400)

only the milk is yellow(ing) not the context of the fruitbody.
Peziza succosella:
similar but milk greenish-yellow(ing).
Peziza emileia and Peziza michelii:
only context is yellow(ing) not the milk.

Not sure though if there are others with yellowing too.

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