Observation 131948: Morchella esculentoides M.Kuo, Dewsbury, Moncalvo & S.L.Stephenson
When: 2013-04-15
35.5618° -84.2329° 259m
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On soil under Juniperus virginiana

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Love it…
By: Jon Shaffer (watchcat)
2013-04-16 14:21:47 PDT (-0700)

Yummy! Good discussion also.

A beautiful sight!
By: Linas Kudzma (baravykas)
2013-04-16 12:19:11 PDT (-0700)

It makes me hungry.

I would be happy
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-04-16 09:48:42 PDT (-0700)

if I see just one… so jealous…grr
I’m curious with one thing. How to you prepare morchellas? Is there a previous preparation for all of the edible ones, or not?

Eastern Red Cedar
By: Phil Yeager (gunchky)
2013-04-16 09:40:09 PDT (-0700)

seems to be alive and well. Due to the morels being found in a circle around the tree, I would venture to say that the mycelium is interacting with the trees superficial surface roots. As for being saphrobes, I’m not sure. I have not read Prof. Volk’s article, but in my experience; once the host is permantly “gone” morels are no longer in the same spot. As an example I found morels in an old, almost dead apple orchard. I picked morels there for four years until all the tree were dead. The next year I found about three, and the following year none. If they are saphrobic, why didn’t they continue to fruit on the dead wood of the apples and other species, particulary ash found in close proximity to the apples?

So many topics…!
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2013-04-16 04:52:58 PDT (-0700)

First, the cedar. I have had discussions with morel hunters from the midwest who regularly collect yellow morels from stands of cedar.

Phil, the idea you posted is one that has been out forth as a result of both casual observation and scientific research. I believe that Professor Tom Volk has been involved in research surrounding the “nutrient deprivation” stimulus for the reproductive phase of morchella fungi. This is the reason why I posted the question. The tree pictured (see Christine’s link found in this discussion) appears to be quite old. So I’m wondering if the cedars tend to die off slowly… like the apple trees where I find yellow morels here in PA.

As for storage of morels, here’s a great method to keep them fresh in the fridge for up to a week. Works with other types of mushrooms as well. Use a glass, ceramic, or clay bowl that is large enough so that the mushrooms do not reach the top rim. Wet a paper towel and ring it out so that it’s still fairly damp. Drape over the top of the bowl. The mushrooms should not touch the paper towel. Whenever the towel dries out, dampen it again and replace over the bowl. I generally dampen a cloth once or twice daily.

It’s not the bag composition I’m worried about
By: Danny Newman (myxomop)
2013-04-15 22:16:54 PDT (-0700)

It’s your beautiful morels’ ability to breathe.

By: Christine Braaten (wintersbefore)
2013-04-15 22:10:15 PDT (-0700)

They are Earth Fare produce bags, I’m pretty sure they are environmentally friendly, at least sort of, I’ll try to find a link for them…

By: Richard Kneal (bloodworm)
2013-04-15 22:03:17 PDT (-0700)

i hope they are still around in a week!!

By: Danny Newman (myxomop)
2013-04-15 21:53:16 PDT (-0700)

plastic bags??

Thanks for posting that!
By: Christine Braaten (wintersbefore)
2013-04-15 19:49:42 PDT (-0700)

" Morel hunters from Tennessee often claim to find morels under red cedar."

morels under eastern cedar
By: Terri Clements/Donna Fulton (pinonbistro)
2013-04-15 19:46:43 PDT (-0700)

Kuo, M. (2006, April). Eastern red cedar (Juniperus virginiana). Retrieved from the MushroomExpert.Com Web site: http://www.mushroomexpert.com/trees/juniperus_virginiana.

By: Christine Braaten (wintersbefore)
2013-04-15 19:03:57 PDT (-0700)

But Juniperus virginiana is not reported to be associated with Morels and also I’m not sure if Juniperus virginiana is reported to be a mycorrhizal host at all. These have come up under the same Eastern Red Cedar trees for the last 4 years that I have lived here, and may have been doing so for much longer before that. Each time they fruit within a week or two earlier or later than they did the year before.

Old trees or dying trees.
By: Phil Yeager (gunchky)
2013-04-15 18:59:52 PDT (-0700)

Perhaps the mycelium is responding to a reduction of nutrients it is recieving from its symbiont, and therefore enters into its reproductive mode.

I think
By: Christine Braaten (wintersbefore)
2013-04-15 18:48:19 PDT (-0700)

they are all alive, but pretty old, here is a pic of one of the large trunked old Eastern Red Cedars that I find lots of them under – from obs (90709): http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/317734?obs=90709&q=1BnXs

Are the juniper trees…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2013-04-15 18:38:11 PDT (-0700)

healthy or dying?

It is my understanding that some consideration has been given to the hypothesis that morchella species may play both mycorrhizal and saprobic roles.

By: Britney Ramsey (Riverdweller)
2013-04-15 18:33:27 PDT (-0700)

what a haul!!

I’m convinced
By: Christine Braaten (wintersbefore)
2013-04-15 18:16:15 PDT (-0700)

at this point that they are somehow associated with the Juniperus virginiana, there is a circle around every large old Eastern Red Cedar tree.

Under juniper?
By: Rocky Houghtby
2013-04-15 18:13:26 PDT (-0700)

I guess these are being saprobes then?

Nice tater sack!

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