Observation 132779: Undetermined
When: 2013-05-01
Collection location: Braga, Portugal [Click for map]
No herbarium specimen

Notes: On a holly leaf.

Proposed Names

31% (2)
Recognized by sight: I do not believe it is Trochila ilicina or some imperfect fungus. It looks like from insects
46% (2)
Eye3
Recognized by sight
56% (1)
Eyes3
Recognized by sight

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Ok.
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-05-01 20:24:14 CDT (-0400)

A mysterious holly leaf indeed ;)

I saw
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-05-01 20:18:45 CDT (-0400)

a bigger round structures, that disappeared after! I have the photos, I’ll send you by email.

But Phythophthora is fungal in broadest sense of the word.
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-05-01 20:02:03 CDT (-0400)

Similar to Trochila is an anamorphic fungus called Coniothyrium ilicis. I find it frequently in holly leaves too.

What I meant is
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-05-01 19:55:20 CDT (-0400)

that I only can see that there are spores, I see them, but of course I can’t see the shape neither any pormenor. I cutted one of that prominences on the leaf and saw it under micro with a drop of water. I believe it’s fungi, but I just read something about Phytophthora ilicis which has spores and is not fungal and now I’m in doubt.

Where do you see spores?
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-05-01 19:23:16 CDT (-0400)

To see spores through this they must at least be some millimeters large. Spores are in micrometer range too small for this. Maybe you mean whole fruitbodies but I do not see anything except brighter particles upon a darker surface to put it like that. What is the magnification of this?

Yes
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2013-05-01 14:28:31 CDT (-0400)

it’s fungal. I saw the spores, unfortunately this toy microscope have only this utility.

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