Observation 134665: Pholiota subgenus Flammuloides sect. Carbonicola A.H Sm. & Hesler
When: 2013-05-27
No herbarium specimen

Notes: Growing in troops on ground burnt last July (2012). Dark spores. Cap with darkened red-brown center. Not seen on wood all day, but many times at the base of burned trees, many of which are still alive. Note dark red-brown spore deposit on cap of mushroom on extreme right of last photo.

Proposed Names

30% (2)
Recognized by sight
81% (1)
Eyes3
Recognized by sight: Viscid pileus, red partial veil, On burnt wood.
28% (1)
Used references: Roody

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Eye3 = Observer’s choice
Eyes3 = Current consensus

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Thanks Rocky and Dave W
By: Martin Livezey (MLivezey)
2013-06-01 17:42:47 PDT (-0700)

I am going to have to give up my tendency to photograph and run w/o collecting the specimen. Sorry Rocky. Next time.

Thanks Rocky.
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2013-06-01 16:55:32 PDT (-0700)

Actually, regrading habitat, Roody’s words are “buried wood”, which I had correctly written into the previous comment, but which registered in my own mind as “burnt wood.” Sorry! My bad! Spumosa is thus rendered as a longshot. But the mushrooms do look like spumosa. So I’ll allow the proposal to stand as a “could be.”

Section Spumosae
By: Rocky Houghtby
2013-06-01 10:00:28 PDT (-0700)

Resides in subgenus Flammuloides alongside section Carbonicola. The two sections are very closely related in terms of morphology.

I don’t know if P. spumosa…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2013-06-01 09:17:31 PDT (-0700)

is placed in section Carbonicola. But Roody lists “on the ground from buried wood” as one type of habitat for this species. Roody includes within his description of the cap color(s), tawny in the center merging with yellow toward the margin. The photo in Roody’s West Virginia guide looks a lot like this collection.

There are
By: Rocky Houghtby
2013-05-31 18:39:09 PDT (-0700)

Seven species in Section Carbonicola that are, as far as I can tell, all but indistinguishable from each other. For instance, P. highlandensis, P. carbonaria, P. fulvozonata and P. subsaponacea can be macroscopically distinguished based on the color of the immature partial veil and the flavor of the pileus. Habit, habitat and mature coloration are almost identical for these taxa.

Personally, I’d like to see some microscopy for this observation. The burn Pholiota are quite interesting.

Thanks Eric
By: Martin Livezey (MLivezey)
2013-05-31 17:48:03 PDT (-0700)

I think that hits the nail (mushroom?) on the head (cap?). I like Kuo’s tone on this one. Close enough for now!

Maybe
By: Eric Smith (esmith)
2013-05-31 17:07:18 PDT (-0700)
Byrain
By: Martin Livezey (MLivezey)
2013-05-31 16:37:21 PDT (-0700)

Good point

You should
By: Byrain
2013-05-31 16:36:16 PDT (-0700)

add the state to the location so we don’t have to click the map several times to find that out. :)

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