Observation 13504: Leccinum snellii A.H. Sm., Thiers & Watling
When: 2008-10-06
No herbarium specimen

Notes: Besides honey mushrooms, these were the only edibles to appear in abundance during the week I camped in the Cranberry wilderness.

I tried them in a potato and onion hash. They were slimy and chewy and not very flavorful, but they did not make me sick, so I’ll call it a successful experiment.

I always feel a little strange after trying any species for the first time, waiting to see what will happen. That’s part of the fun of this hobby though :)

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Recognized by sight
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Recognized by sight: Look for green staining in the lower stipe context and reddish in the cap flesh.

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more Leccinum snellii
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2008-11-22 20:11:55 CST (-0500)

I forgot to add that I discussed this species with Dr. Roy Halling who gave is opinion that L. variicolor is distinct from L. snellii. Although flesh color changes in Leccinum are often inconsistant, the blue green in the lower stipe and reddish in the cap after a few minutes of being bruised is pretty constant in Leccinum snellii.

Must add
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2008-11-22 14:40:14 CST (-0500)

that Leccinum variicolor has a more grey than brown cap colour.

By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2008-11-22 14:22:08 CST (-0500)

is actually discussed in this key to european Leccinum species (under Leccinum variicolor):

I hesitated to call this one scabrum, because it doesn’t get bluish stains in the stem base. A closer look-alike is found in Leccinum variicolor, with both the green in the stem, and the variegated cap colour.

Leccinum splitting
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2008-11-22 14:15:34 CST (-0500)

At a foray I attended in Ontario, Finland mycologists were calling this L. variicolor (see the Picture on this site from Sweden by Irene Andersson.
Whatever you call it, it is common under hemlock and other conifers in Eastern North America. And Dan, like many Leccinums it is edible but far from incredible.

varieties, species, phenotypes ?
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2008-11-22 13:17:52 CST (-0500)

They were all picked in the same general area, but individual specimens were separated by up to a mile. Lincoff reports that L. scabrum has pores that bruise brown and a stem that bruises blue at the base, which clearly matches the mushrooms in the second photo. If splitters want to call these L. snellii that’s Ok with me. L. scabrum was close enough to insure a non-toxic bioassay.

It seems to me a lot of the difficulty with mushroom nomenclature stems from ambiguity surrounding the breadth and width of a name’s extension. If one were to counter that a name refers to precisely all members of a species, and not to members of other species, then the question becomes what is a species and how does one determine the boundaries of the set which contains all individuals that make up the species.

These questions are not easy to answer.

If we accept that most of the mushrooms in this observation are Leccinum snellii, then what exactly makes the one in the back right suspect? It is a younger specimen than the others. Why suspect a different species rather than a different ‘form’ ‘variety’ or phenotype?

Mixed collection?
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2008-11-22 00:23:10 CST (-0500)

it almost looks like you have a different one back right in the group photo, (maybe Leccinum oxydabile??? more reddish brown cap and reddish staining flesh at stipe base) Did you collect it in the same area as the others?
I also agree with Walt on snellii which is usually darker then scabrum

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