Observation 136432: Stropharia rugosoannulata Farl. ex Murrill
When: 2013-06-14
No herbarium specimen

Notes: At 1st I thought I found boletes, but no they have gills. The young one w/o the white fungal infection of any significant apparent degree also smells very muhc like a good Scleroderma citrinum. Could it be related?!?
The young one was found w/in a foot of the others. I’m assuming them to all be the same.
They were found in an aging mulch layer (didn’t seem very thick), near a maple and black cherry tree (plus a bush of some sort).

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I’m glad you decided against eating it, Sam.
By: Daniel B. Wheeler (Tuberale)
2013-06-16 05:17:07 CEST (+0200)

If the people at MO can’t positively identify something with at least 70% reliability, I’d forgo munching it.

Always know a few GOOD mycologists, to get second opinions from.

And a third opinion wouldn’t hurt either.

Eeeks.
By: Sam.Schaperow (SamSchaperow)
2013-06-16 04:11:14 CEST (+0200)

Oh my, I think I omitted a key part of what I meant to say on my last comment. What I meant to say was I do agree it isn’t S. citrinum, yet found it interesting that there was a commonality in the smell. I then meant to say that I wonder if what I found has any relationship w/S. citrinum (like how Berkeley’s Polypore is actually related to Russulas).

Anyway, as to what it is, hum…. I’ve given up on it in terms of eating, between challenge of getting spores on something so young, how the infection might affect it, etc. But, maybe someone has found similar mushrooms, but also enough mature uninfected specimens to get a solid ID.

Almost possitive it isn’t, Sam.
By: Daniel B. Wheeler (Tuberale)
2013-06-16 02:05:00 CEST (+0200)

The peridium (outer shell) does not appear to be over 1mm thick. S. citrinum should have a peridium 1-3mm thick, according to Arora. There is no erect warts on the peridium, either: a dead giveaway for S. citrinum.

That said, I’m not sure this is S. rugosoannulata either. Have you found any others?

wine cap sounds liike itmay be, and hypom. infection
By: Sam.Schaperow (SamSchaperow)
2013-06-15 23:43:01 CEST (+0200)

Yes, I can see this, but for some reasons it does smell like S. citrinum to me. I wondered if maybe some kind of relation like how some agarics are related to non-agarics.

Gilled mushrooms
By: Daniel B. Wheeler (Tuberale)
2013-06-15 21:28:57 CEST (+0200)

with annulus and bulbous base. Definately mushroom, Sam. The white fungus does look like Hypomyces. Even the unparasitized specimen looks to parasitized, but very young.

Scleroderma has no gills and lacks a stipe and annulus.

Photos 2, 3, 4, 5 look like…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2013-06-15 06:33:49 CEST (+0200)

some stunted young Stropharia to me. Spore print color?… Actually, with very young specimens spore print is a long-shot.

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