Observation 136987: Tylopilus badiceps (Peck) A.H. Sm. & Thiers

When: 2013-06-18

Collection location: Thompson Park, East Liverpool, Ohio, USA [Click for map]

Who: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)

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So true about color Dave
By: Bill (boletebill)
2015-04-08 10:24:46 EDT (-0400)

the whole cluster of eastern Tylopilus with beautiful purples, violets, lilacs eventually fade to the same dull brown and tan. part of the challenge (nightmare) of ID-ing Tylopilus

Thanks Bill.
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2015-04-06 15:11:53 EDT (-0400)

I have no first-hand experience IDing T. indecisus.

BRB lists the spore print color of ferrugineus as “pinkish brown.” Doesn’t this strongly favor Tylopilus over the other similar genera?… Unless, of course, if there’s been some additional recent splitting.

Seems like a similar ID nightmare when it comes to the bitter Tylopilus… rubrobrunneus, violatinctus, plumbeoviolaceus. Especially older specimens that may feature faded colors.

thanks Walt and I assume if you found a bolete that looked like T. violatinctus….
By: Bill (boletebill)
2015-04-06 14:12:59 EDT (-0400)

….you would have tasted it….and they are bitter….which is a good field character for separating them from the continuing confusion between badiceps and ferrugineus…..not to mention the whole night mare of what the hell does ferrugineus refer to!!??? Tylopilus? Boletus? Xerocomus? But that’s another story…
Dave… my experience with indecisus is no violet or red tones at all, boring browns, tans, cream-colors with maybe the slightest touch of dull rust in the cap but never the stipe.

By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2015-04-06 12:10:57 EDT (-0400)

I hunt this park often and have yet to see fresh (recognizable) T. violatinctus there. For whatever that is worth…

Could the name…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2015-04-06 10:49:48 EDT (-0400)

“indecisus” apply here? I mean in the sense of the Tylopilus species and not metaphorically :-)

badiceps/ferrugineus discussions are so often inconclusive that I….
By: Bill (boletebill)
2015-04-06 10:30:54 EDT (-0400)

….almost never try to ID by photo (and I seldom post these days) but somehow I keep getting drawn back to this and having discarded the “beveled margin” criteria I have to say that THIS observation looks very much like T. violatinctus to me….especially the way the stipe color is fading to brown. Just an impression here…

By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2013-06-19 22:07:12 EDT (-0400)

You could be right. Chemical tests did not match either species.

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