Observation 138683: Amanita onusta (Howe) Sacc.
When: 2013-07-05
No herbarium specimen

Notes: Has a strong smell of something (maybe chloride to a degree).

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Recognized by sight: Compare the powdery volva of cinereoconia with the warts of onusta: http://www.amanitaceae.org?Amanita+cinereoconia vs. http://www.amanitaceae.org?Amanita+onusta

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size, too.
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2014-07-10 08:26:06 PDT (-0700)

onusta is typically quite small. one of our most adorable eastern lepidellas.

cinereopannosa is a very different mushroom. larger, and with very distinctive “elf mud pie” flattened warts.

here’s a page of it from Boone, NC, where I learned it in all of its ages:
http://mushroomobserver.org/8559?q=24Lg0

It is one of my fave leps!

ALL lepidellas should be assumed to be toxic unless you know otherwise, although smithiana from the western USA is the only one that I know of that causes kidney failure. Best to err on the side of caution, wouldn’t you say?

There is a single edible lepidella species that is sold at markets in China, Amanita virgineoides. I have no idea how many other similar lepidellas occur there. They are not easy to tell apart, even by experts!

You can taste any mushroom, but I do hope that you are spitting, afterwards!

Flavor perception, like odor, is an individual matter, and both will change over time and perhaps terroir.
In other words, fungi also pick up elements from their environment that can affect their flavor.

You need to have ALL of your salient characters in a row for an “I’d call it that” ID.

dirty so often
By: Sam.Schaperow (Sam.Schaperow)
2014-07-06 16:05:31 PDT (-0700)

I’ve noticed both w/these specimens and those of last year that the caps are dirty. I wonder if the caps are sticky when pushing through the dirt, thus retaining dirt.

sweetness observation
By: Sam.Schaperow (Sam.Schaperow)
2014-07-06 15:06:37 PDT (-0700)

Posted on MushroomTalk (https://groups.yahoo.com/...) on 7/6/14:
“I’ve found occasionally that rare species have significant sweetness in their stipes (as in Agaricus bisporus & a honey mushroom species I had tried about 2 decades ago). But, I have zero recollection of tasting sweet lamellae, until the other day.

Has anyone has experienced sweet lamellae?

As to what I tried w/sweet lamellae, it was the raw tasting of an Amanita onusta (http://mushroomobserver.org/138683?q=23oF1).
The above link shows what I found last year. What I found this year I finally tried and it was found growing off the same birch tree I found the original specimens, and it was also found near where the others grew. They also looked the same. So, it is very likely the same species, which isn’t conclusive in identification (see like). There was also a mild & pleasant chlorine-like odor.


Sam Schaperow, MSMFT, LMFT
Clinical Director
PsychologyCT.com (Psychology CT)
Based in New London County in Connecticut"

“I’d call it that” level
By: Sam.Schaperow (SamSchaperow)
2013-07-06 19:37:52 PDT (-0700)

BTW, it is interesting how some mushrooms are just so hard to identify to the “I’d call it that” level.

ah yes
By: Sam.Schaperow (SamSchaperow)
2013-07-06 19:27:52 PDT (-0700)

Hi Rod:

TY for the helpful feedback. Yes, I now recognize the warts are like A. onusta.

Just out of curiosity, what are the odds this is a toxic Amanita?

Thank you.


Sam Schaperow, M.S.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PlantForagers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MushroomTalk
PsychologyCT.com

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