Observation 138826: Panaeolus papilionaceus (Bull.) Quél.
When: 2013-07-06
Collection location: Alva, Florida, USA [Click for map]
Project: Panaeolus

Proposed Names

41% (3)
Recognized by sight: Non-appendiculate cap margin
29% (3)
Recognized by sight

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You could be right
By: Byrain
2013-07-09 10:27:47 PDT (-0700)

if so I hope someone can prove me wrong. :)

Mykes, have you sent this to Christine yet?

Byrain
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2013-07-08 23:23:53 PDT (-0700)

I think that Panaeolus papilionaceus does that sometimes.

Alan
By: Byrain
2013-07-08 23:17:29 PDT (-0700)

I consider it doubtful because the very clean non-appendiculate cap margin, I think at least one specimen would show some veil if this was P. papilionaceus. My vote is a bit of a toss up between ‘doubtful’ and ‘could be’.

Byrain
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2013-07-08 21:22:41 PDT (-0700)

Why do you consider Panaeolus papilionaceus doubtful? I always call mushrooms that look like this P. papilionaceus. I see there is a herbarium specimen, who has it?

Just Panaeolus papilionaceus
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2013-07-08 12:46:13 PDT (-0700)
So…
By: Byrain
2013-07-08 10:14:29 PDT (-0700)

What species are in the Panaeolus papilionaceus group?

Yeh
By: Rocky Houghtby
2013-07-06 16:58:46 PDT (-0700)

I think the “group” is a remnant from when there were several “varieties” that have since been synonymized. I imagine its easy to accidentally click on the group option instead of the taxon sometimes whilst proposing names.

Panaeolus papilionaceus group
By: Byrain
2013-07-06 16:48:03 PDT (-0700)

Consists of which species exactly? Everything in Panaeolus sect. Panaeolus? Which species in that section are worth considered besides P. papilionaceus? We should be able to rule out P. venezolanus right away due to the absence of an annulus and the only other described species I am aware of is P. rubricaulis, but without an appendiculate cap margin (Or a hygrophanous cap surface) I don’t think that is a good name to consider either…

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