Observation 139039: Amanita Pers.
When: 2013-07-07
No herbarium specimen

Proposed Names

47% (2)
Eye3 Eyes3
Recognized by sight
45% (2)
Recognized by sight: yellow cap, striate margin, basal bulb. something in the gemmata group.
-15% (2)
Recognized by sight: yellow-green cap with brownish center, membranous volva covering basal bulb.
unusual but not impossible cap striations. roughened stipe not typical, but also sometimes occurs. more likely if found in park w/introduced trees.
23% (1)
Recognized by sight: I’m in the gemmata camp, and nobody has proposed this yet…

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Eye3 = Observer’s choice
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just for fun…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2013-07-09 15:29:29 CDT (-0400)

and to demonstrate that weird morpho happens, here’s an example of a striate phalloides margin from Mike Wood’s website:

http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Amanita_phalloides.html

That phalloides was at a younger state of development than the mushroom shown here!

Specimen access could have cleared up the entire debate quickly. All else is speculation.

Good IDs require back-up material. Of course, it won’t always happen, but then, we can’t expect to really know our mushroom from just a macro-photo, esp. a photo that shows so many ambiguous characters.

It’s an imperfect world.

too many ambiguous features here…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2013-07-08 14:00:45 CDT (-0400)

IMO.

The cap is fully expanded, not young. I’m sure that you have also seen striate phalloides. UV warts can disappear with time and conditions.

I agree that it looks more typical for a gemmatoid amanita, but the UV on the bulb is more membranous than we’d expect to see for one of our gemmata types.
I actually proposed section Amanita, gemmata group as an ID earlier this am, until I read Rod’s remarks and looked harder at the UV on the bulb.

Then, I wasn’t so certain.

Spores would tell, but alas…

At least we can all agree that this is not a vaginate amanita and that it would be a poor choice for anyone’s dinner.

Scurf and striation
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2013-07-08 13:44:05 CDT (-0400)

Yeah, both “happen”.

But the well-developed (not random and irregular) character of
not one, but both features (especially the striation/sulcation) on this
fruitbody (that also appears to be fresh) lends more weight to their
inherent presence for whatever species this is.

I agree that it appears gemmatoid.

“scurf” happens…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2013-07-08 13:40:19 CDT (-0400)

as do striate margins in normally unstriate amanitas.

Here’s a scurfy phalloides:

http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/290102?obs=119038&q=1M7Pi

however, my first hit on this amanita was something in the gemmata group.

that’s why I was asking about habitat…to my knowledge, phalloides has NOT escaped into the wilds of WA.

IMO, insufficient info to make a good determination here.

I won’t ask about odor, either, since our observer was apparently ill at the time, and sniffing fungal bouquet was probably not on the top of his to do list.

Thank you, Christian.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2013-07-08 13:14:38 CDT (-0400)

R

The rather scurfy-scaly stem and clearly sulcate cap
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2013-07-08 12:02:36 CDT (-0400)

suggest not A. phalloides

where was this growing?
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2013-07-08 11:26:34 CDT (-0400)

in the forest or near human habitation/parkland?

what was the elevation?

did the cap have embedded radial fibers, typical of phalloides, like this one, here?

http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/168081?obs=76105&q=1M7JN

Glad to hear it.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2013-07-08 09:30:10 CDT (-0400)

R

It happens
By: Caleb Brown (Caleb Brown)
2013-07-08 08:15:53 CDT (-0400)

I am feeling better thanks =)

I’m very sorry to hear you weren’t feeling well.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2013-07-07 22:49:41 CDT (-0400)

I hope you’re feeling better.

Rod

No, no, no
By: Caleb Brown (Caleb Brown)
2013-07-07 22:32:16 CDT (-0400)

We didnt eat it. I thought it had a sack not bulb, I was pretty sick at the time, wasnt focusing on much else other than making it back to the car.

I hope no one ate this mushroom.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2013-07-07 22:28:26 CDT (-0400)

It looks like A. phalloides.

R

Your specimen
By: Josh M.K. (suchen)
2013-07-07 22:17:23 CDT (-0400)

appears to have a bulb and what looks like an annulus which would mark this as something other than section Vaginatae.

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