Observation 139464: Amanita Pers.

When: 2013-07-06

Collection location: State Game Lands 110, Pennsylvania, USA [Click for map]

Who: Karen (oldmanofthewoods)

No specimen available

Proposed Names

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Karen, both A. citrina and A. brunnescens …
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2013-07-10 22:38:39 CDT (-0500)

are species names that appear in section Validae.

David, thank you for point me to this observation.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2013-07-10 22:24:00 CDT (-0500)

I think this might be a pale-citrine-capped brunnescens. The bulb looks like the firm, splitting type rather than the soft-marshmallow-type of the citrinoid group. I think I probably already told you about my experience finding pale citrine and deep brown caps in a fairy ring of brunnescens. The was pretty convincing to me that there’s no point in having a “var. pallida” for brunnescens. I think it’s just one taxon. Recent DNA sequences sent to me from Univ. of Calif. and Univ. of Tenn. both indicate that at least the two most commonly sequenced genes in amanita studies are identical in pale and brown-capped specimens of brunnescens.

The bottom line is that I suggest you consider the possibility that this observation concerns A. brunnescens.

Very best,


Thank you
By: Karen (oldmanofthewoods)
2013-07-10 21:22:44 CDT (-0500)

and thanks for the proposed name – it seems like it could fit in that group. Do you feel more confident that it is part of the section Validae?

Karen, nice obs of an interesting amanita.
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2013-07-10 21:05:56 CDT (-0500)

I don’t have a lot of confidence in my “citrina” proposal. But I think it’s a possibility.

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