Observation 140183: Amanita subcokeri Tulloss nom. prov.

When: 2013-07-14

Collection location: Zoar Valley MUA, New York, USA [Click for map]

Who: Garrett Taylor (cappy)

Specimen available

Near lots of hemlock and a birch tree if I remember correctly.

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The red staining on a bulb with many rows of recurved scales at the top and a rooting tip…
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2013-07-17 07:59:56 PDT (-0700)

is typical of subcokeri. The ring often has to separate membranes (duplex ring) and the bottom of the lower ring is attached to the stipe by fibers as in abrupta and cokeri. You material (unless decay was present) should have had elements of cedar wood and caramel in the odor…also typical of subcokeri. A. cokeri doesn’t have the reddish staining, lacks an odor until it is aging, and has larger warts that are more easily detached from the cap surface.

Standing up amanitas in the collecting basket keeps them from rotating their caps and twisting their stems in the attempt to keep the gills perpendicular to the ground (geotropic reaction).

Very best,


top and bottom I thought to be the same
By: Garrett Taylor (cappy)
2013-07-17 07:26:47 PDT (-0700)

Thanks Rod, there is a lot on here called daucipes which bears little resemblance to this mushroom and the group of pictures on your site certainly more closely resembles this. Now, these were in the same ring of five or six hemlock trees and one birch, many pine trees were present in the general vicinity, but I didn’t think any other Lepidellas were fruiting in the area or much of anything else for that matter. Either way the bottom one smelled just like ham (I should have mentioned this in my observation) and had the root which I didn’t fully get in the one specimen so I collected the other (Poorly. I think these collected specimens were placed into my overflow container which was plastic with a lot of others which didn’t survive so well. I need to come up with a better solution for overflow).

The name subcokeri applies to the top image.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2013-07-17 07:01:16 PDT (-0700)

I am uncertain of a name for the lower picture.

Very best,


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