Observation 140754: Mycena nivicola Perry & Desjardin, nom. prov.
When: 2013-04-11

Notes: Part of the US Forest Service 2011-2013 Southern Cascades Fungi Survey.
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Collected by Noah Siegel, specimen in personal herbarium.

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modern survey data on collection labels? SURE!
By: else
2013-07-24 15:35:11 PDT (-0700)

a quick look at the lichen and bryophyte portals (loads of herbarium data) show modern lables (2002, 2006 e.g.) with Survey in the collector’s field. i really don’t see any problem with it!

modern survey data on collection labels? SURE!
By: else
2013-07-24 15:34:50 PDT (-0700)

a quick look at the lichen and bryophyte portals (loads of herbarium data) show modern lables (2002, 2006 e.g.) with Survey in the collector’s field. i really don’t see any problem with it!

Wait a minute!
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2013-07-24 14:01:28 PDT (-0700)

Adolf, did you just claim that there is value in specimens missing metadata???
I agree! Maybe with the grace of our Lord Elias Fries, you can find the reverse to be true! MO is also a “nonlinear” database.

573 specimens of vascular plants in CA herbaria
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2013-07-24 13:57:39 PDT (-0700)

Else, have a closer look at those 537 vascular plant herbarium specimens in CA database. Many of them have either no collection date, or a vague date. The youngest specimen from that lot was collected in 1891. Quite a few of them did not have any location data. I can imagine that some CA herbarium rat found old bundles of herbarium specimens and did not want to throw them away. Actually, it would be a pity to throw such specimens away, because they have other information that you cannot fit into a “linear” herbarium database. I don’t see any reason why a modern collector should not write a proper herbarium label. Adolf

Survey as collector – it happens among higher plants too!
By: else
2013-07-24 10:59:27 PDT (-0700)

i just looked at the database for the Consortium of California herbaria and typed in Survey in the collector field, and got 573 records, with Survey in that field (either the State Survey, or Geological Survey).
All those records are of plant species.

Fortunately
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2013-07-24 07:41:28 PDT (-0700)

you can contact the user directly using MO’s features, to request the supplemental
information you need. But apparently ranting was a better use of your time (?)

Little bit strange logic in this discussion
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2013-07-24 06:22:43 PDT (-0700)

One does not have to be a (or an) herbarium rat in order to see that you entered the Project Name into the collector field (User/Who). That would not bother me a bit, if it were not of Gelatinodiscus flavidus, the MO observations of which I would like to publish. Adolf

BUT MUSHROOM OBSERVER IS NOT A HERBARIUM
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2013-07-23 17:35:24 PDT (-0700)

I overlooked that you put the Collector’s name into “Notes:”. I was looking for it
in the Observer field, where it would be on the herbarium label. You are right that MUSHROOM OBSERVER IS NOT A HERBARIUM, however MO could be a great tool when linked with an ordinary herbarium database. Check our collections in MyCoPortal. They were originally posted as MO observations:
http://mycoportal.org/...
All the best,
Adolf

Adolf,

For you, the curmudgeonly retired herbarium rat. If you were at the herbarium you would see a label with the collector, project, etc. in the format you are used to, plus pinpoint GPS locations and 2-4 page forms with lots of seemingly useless info. BUT MUSHROOM OBSERVER IS NOT A HERBARIUM, so I’m not posting any of that, or changing the “Collector” name.

US Forest Service 2011-2013 … Survey as a collector?
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2013-07-23 12:10:43 PDT (-0700)

For me, a retired herbarium rat, the “US Forest Service 2011-2013 … Survey” is the name of the project, NOT a “Collector”. Adolf

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