Observation 142719: Amanita sect. Amanita

When: 2013-08-14

Collection location: Oneida Co., New York, USA [Click for map]

Who: Eric Smith (esmith)

No specimen available

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Recognized by sight: Probably a mixed collection with the button being different than the others which appear to be A. crenulata.

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I sympathize.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2013-08-17 16:08:11 EDT (-0400)

With me, it’s my hearing. I haven’t yet done anything about it because sometimes what I hear is so funny (although utterly incorrect) that I am completely entertained by the goofy associations of my brain when it can only hear the consonants. But sometimes, it would be very good to understand what my wife is saying to me urgently. So something has to be done.

Very best,


Hi Rod
By: Eric Smith (esmith)
2013-08-15 22:26:41 EDT (-0400)

After looking at this photo at magnification, I believe your initial impression was right. I can see traces of friable, champagne colored “powder” on the caps/bulbs of the others. I think these are probably crenulata with the exception of the smallest one. Which has a different universal veil texture. Thanks Rod! My eyes are going from bad to worse…

By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2013-08-15 17:37:39 EDT (-0400)

Such a variability (powdery thin volva to friable, but thick differently colored volva) is outside anyuthing in my experience. I concur with you that that difference really separates these mushrooms from A. crenulata. I look forward to seeing the material.

Thank you for saving the material for me.

Very best,


It is a white wart…
By: Eric Smith (esmith)
2013-08-15 17:17:20 EDT (-0400)

and there were more white warts not detailed in this picture.

I found several obvious Amanita crenulata yesterday along the same path with champagne colored caps and champagne colored warts and champagne colored volval material on the shoulder of most of the bulbs. These weren’t them. Some of the larger caps in this collection seemed slightly viscid and by the white warts alone I’d say these aren’t A. crenulata, but I’m unsure on the limits of the variability in A. crenulata morphology. I’ve been calling these “crenulata-alikes” for the past few years.

These weren’t grouped closely so there is a possibility of a mixed collection. I think they’re all the same but I’m not certain.

I have this collection and will send it with the others.

The darkest cap fooled me for a minute, but I think this could be crenulata
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2013-08-15 11:36:08 EDT (-0400)

If that is a white wart on the smallest cap, then that might be a different species from the others.


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