Observation 144653: Cyptotrama chrysopepla (Berk. & M.A. Curtis) Singer
When: 2013-09-03
No herbarium specimen
0 Sequences

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you might be right Alan.
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2017-02-26 13:40:22 CST (-0500)

I saw a sample from DED, and assumed that was from CA. But then I saw on Mycoportal that Scott Bates, a former DED grad student, had collected asprata in several AZ locations. so this might be one of those. If you look closely at the DED example on the recent Cyptotrama paper from China, its location is not stated or rather, stated with a ?

In other words, we are still piecing together this puzzle.

By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2017-02-26 13:33:34 CST (-0500)

I see in the paper where it says C. asprata occurs in Hawaii – but it does not mention California. Where do you see that C. asprata in California has been sequenced? I don’t see any Cyptotrama observations from California on MO.

since only four samples of NA Cyptotrama
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2017-02-26 13:22:58 CST (-0500)

were shown to be chrysopepla, I would be conservative about putting this name on everything. All four examples were along the eastern coast. No samples were tested inland or from the interior or across the western states, and one CA and one Hawaii sample were DNA determined to be asprata. And of course, the two species are macromorphologically identical.

C. asprata has an incredibly broad range, from CA (at least) to Hawaii to Australia and NZ and all across Asia.

It is premature to call all Cyptotrama species in Middle America chrysopepla, but go ahead and do a “could be” in places where it has already been DNA determined. Otherwise, I’d say that you are jumping the gun.

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