Observation 14619: Cystodermella cinnabarina (Alb. & Schwein.) Harmaja
When: 2008-11-20
Herbarium specimen reported

Notes: Found after an overnight rain which I think accounts for the reduced granular appearance of the cap. The white spores were non-amyloid and small, most est. to be below 4.0 microns.

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It is a C. cinnabarina
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2008-12-03 12:04:13 CST (-0500)

I don’t have the photo ready yet, and the rate I’m getting behind, I probably won’t have them until the end of the month… but I got these under the scope and there were the cystidia, really easy to see, and obvious. Also I concur that the spores are inamyloid and apr. 4 um in length, so that all matches the species desc. So these are really Cystodermella cinnabarina. It is interesting this is a fairly variable ’shroom it seems, with a rusty-brown smoother form in the mountains, and this red-brown with very shaggy stipe form on the northern coast.

Have dried material….
By: Ron Pastorino (Ronpast)
2008-11-25 18:35:10 CST (-0500)

The Cystodermella are (almost) in the mail.

cool shroom Ron; looks like you are heading back down the coast…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2008-11-25 17:04:42 CST (-0500)
Oh, did you save these?
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2008-11-25 16:40:41 CST (-0500)

Oh, I really want to get a sample of these under the scope. There is this very red Cystoderma from the far North CA coast, and Southern Oregon coast (maybe more up north), that others here have been popping the name C. cinnabarina on (I’ve doen it from the one time I saw this guy up in Humbolt). Except this is very different from the C. cinnabarina I’ve seen and actually confirmed under the scope, and was from the Jemez Mts of New Mexico. Also Dimi has a confirmed under the scope photo of C. cinnabarina from I think the Sierras. That one matches mine, in the rusty-red-brown colors, and both of these do not match these.

So, I’m really wondering do these look like C. cinnabarina under the scope or not? Which is really easy to tell with the long spear-like cystidia on the gills. There is only one other Cystoderma reported from the US with cystidia on the gills, and this was found only once in southern Florida, and was assumed to be a Central American species, so it is easy to separate there…

So, did you save these? And anyone from up North that might be reading, if you find one, dry it and sent to me?

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