Observation 146784: Inocybe fuscidula Velen. var. fuscidula
When: 2013-09-27
Herbarium specimen reported

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One problem for an amateur like me…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2014-12-28 07:31:05 IST (+0530)

is that it is not always clear what materials are worth preserving/saving. So I tend to post almost all of what I find, partly because this is how I learn what may be useful for research. (Three other reasons… because I simply like to share my experiences with other enthusiasts, because I get a lot of help here arriving at good ID proposals, and because it helps me keep up with the ever-changing nomenclature.)

I don’t have the time to preserve/catalog everything I find. Regrettably, some good stuff occasionally slips through my fingers just because I find it at an otherwise busy time, or because I am not aware of current interest in it.

Hi Adolf
By: Linas Kudzma (baravykas)
2014-12-28 01:57:20 IST (+0530)

Yes, I too use MO similarly. My use is a bit more casual than yours in the sense that I post only a small fraction of my “serious” collections, but those that I do post always have vouchers retained in a carefully maintained personal herbarium and most have sequence data available. While it is unfortunate that often some really interesting MO observations have no saved specimens, MO has nevertheless been a great place to meet folks such as Dave W and others who help further my research. I have received some very valuable material from MO users, which never would have been available to me otherwise.

Best Regards,
Linas

Thanks for clarification
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2014-12-27 23:07:07 IST (+0530)

I have been using MO as a “virtual herbarium” for posting jpegs that should go with Oluna’s herbarium collections. I see MO as a great system to link the photographs and drawings with the real herbarium specimens and I ignore MO observations that don’t have any supporting herbarium material.
I mark our MO observations as having the herbarium specimen as soon as the collected fungus goes into the desiccator, other MO users either don’t mark it at all, or mark it when the real specimens goes (is delivered or accessioned?) into the official herbarium.
Oluna’s material was the largest part of DNA sequencing done at the University of British Columbia. Emma Harrower, who worked on Cortinarius, produced a nice study on her results (http://www.researchgate.net/... ), but the other UBC student’s work on Inocybe was only submitted to the GenBank without any further analysis (about 600 GenBank records). Brandon Matheny cited a few those UBC Inocybe GenBank records, but the bulk of them is sitting there waiting for some taxonomical assessment.
Anyway, I see MO as a great way to expose mycological collections to other MO users and I see ticking off the herbarium specimens as a nice way to differentiate “valuable” MO observations from those observations that just clutter the MO system.

Oluna and Adolf, I have the voucher and sequence
By: Linas Kudzma (baravykas)
2014-12-27 19:46:33 IST (+0530)

I’ve only sequenced ITS so far. I’ll do a portion of LSU later. The sequence is not in GenBank. I intend to submit numerous of my sequences this coming year. If you would like to see the data I can send it.

My bad, Oluna & Adolf.
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2014-12-27 19:31:14 IST (+0530)

I just corrected the “herbarium specimen” indication. Linas has the material.

Where is the ITS sequence?
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2014-12-27 11:17:30 IST (+0530)

This observation is marked as not having a supporting herbarium specimen. What is the ITS sequence you are referring to? Adolf
P.S. GenBank HQ604476 refers to our MO observation
http://mushroomobserver.org/173822

ITS sequence is 98% similar to ..
By: Linas Kudzma (baravykas)
2014-12-27 04:30:50 IST (+0530)

GenBank HQ604476 identified as Inocybe fuscidula var. fuscidula. This collection is likely something related to this group.

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