Observation 147777: Neottiella rutilans

When: 2013-10-06

Collection location: Mirror Lake State Park, Wisconsin, USA [Click for map]

Who: Andrew Khitsun (Andrew)

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I have couple of specimen saved,
By: Andrew Khitsun (Andrew)
2013-10-09 22:49:28 CDT (-0400)

but myself lack the equipment to do microscopy.
Also, I’m not an expert on mosses, but the species is said to be associated with moss of genus Polytrichum, which seems similar to the mosses depicted here (Else seems to know this topic better than I do – see his comments below).
The species appears on some prominent sites, like Roger’s mushrooms at http://www.rogersmushrooms.com/...
Also, DiscoverLife shows some American finds of this specimen (the closest one being in Ohio):

microscopic characters to be checked
By: else
2013-10-09 22:43:15 CDT (-0400)

Of course, the collections should be checked microscopically, but this is the name that was floating through my brain while looking at these pictures – always with Polytrichum, with that conspicuous white margin – that is what i would have called it if i had encountered it in the Netherlands.

Definitely, absolutely, not Sowerbyella rhenana.

Problem solved?
By: Andrew Khitsun (Andrew)
2013-10-09 21:51:17 CDT (-0400)

I’ve just uploaded several other images from the past to illustrate my case (4 bottom images), when I got a present in my e-mail: Neottiella rutilans. Thanks a lot, Else! Of course, that being a European mushroom (it seems), I still have some reservations…

I have a feeling that I’m missing something…
By: Andrew Khitsun (Andrew)
2013-10-09 20:55:39 CDT (-0400)

I always wrote this little mushroom off as Aleuria rhenana (or Sowerbyella rhenana if you insist). However, after finding decent number of them over years, I’m beginning to doubt. They just don’t fit the bill, so to speak. First of all, I NEVER see that rudimentary stalk they’re supposed to have – just a usual point of attachment characteristic of Asco mushrooms. Secondly, they ALWAYS grow among the moss, most often deeply embedded into it – not openly in a soil they’re shown to grow in books and websites. And thirdly, they have this fuzzy white webbing that becomes a HAIRY RING around the rim of the fungus. Most of the pictures I see don’t show anything sticking out, leaving smooth outer rim in most specimen of S.rhenana, even if they have fuzzy underside. Am I missing something?

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