Observation 148227: Basidiomycota R.T. Moore
When: 2013-10-13
No herbarium specimen

Notes: Unusually small, appeared to have branched teeth – I am still not sure if it did or didn’t.

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By: Danny Newman (myxomop)
2014-07-17 21:45:43 CDT (-0400)

Same cream coloration and lighter, tapering apices, same branching when young, same part of the country and time of year. Radulodon shares all of these features.

Thanks all for your comments
By: Martin Livezey (MLivezey)
2013-11-19 21:21:13 CST (-0500)

I returned to the log yesterday, and as it has been over a month since the photo, it comes as no surprise that it was gone. I will get it next time I see it.

If this…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2013-11-18 09:04:09 CST (-0500)

is the same as http://mushroomobserver.org/48792?q=1d6nH
which appears to be possible, then there is little similarity to Tremellodendron pallidum, which has tough-to-flexible fruit bodies. The spines seen in obs 48792 were delicate.

Does Tremellodendron/Tremellodendronopsis encompass variously textured macrofungi?

as a side note
By: Danny Newman (myxomop)
2013-11-17 22:45:05 CST (-0500)

I believe Deflexula has a strictly tropical distribution, and its branches are not only far slimmer but completely non-gelatinous.

“I would prefer to see Fungi sp. (it makes it far easier for me to find stuff).”
By: Danny Newman (myxomop)
2013-11-17 22:20:38 CST (-0500)

Absent the sensu lato naming conventions, everything unidentified would be in one enormous question mark pile, as it was before. I don’t see how this could possibly make finding anything easier. Indeed, the only reasons the s.l. names are used here is for organization. Unidentified boletes, polypores, coral & club fungi, entomopathogens, agarics, discomycetes and jelly fungi can be browsed individually. When and where an observation defies basic macromorphological sorting, I fall back on the strict taxonomic ranking to which the observation in questions most likely belongs (ie: Agaricomycetes, Basidiomycota, etc.).

The closer I look, I see both hydnoid and coralloid qualities present here, and a level of viscidness which does, as Noah suggests, border on the gelatinous. A case like this epitomizes proper use of Basidiomycota, in my opinion. It is a fleshy fungus, and not likely an asco, but neither can its body form be said to be of one particular type, nor does the sum of the information present give any indication of even class-level affiliation.

I think there should be three types
By: Martin Livezey (MLivezey)
2013-11-16 15:03:28 CST (-0500)

of taxonomic keys:

1. (everyone on MO’s favorite) is based purely on morphology. If it has a gill, then it follows (in the broad sense) that it is related to, or descends from all other mushrooms with gills.

2. (Noah’s favorite) will be based purely on multi-locus DNA. Since we don’t even agree on which loci (or even have names from them) will be included, this will take big computers, lots more reagants, and about 100 years.

3. My favorite taxonomic key will be based solely on the environmental requirements, substrate – everything that makes that organism live in natural (and artificial environment). If it grows on wood, we need to know what types of wood, how much moisture, what mushroom does to utilize the wood, etc. etc.

…and all of these keys will have some sort of artificial groupings! I would scope it, but I didn’t bring it home…,

Haven’t we moved past the dark ages
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2013-11-16 13:20:17 CST (-0500)

of lumping everything with spines/teeth into “Hydnaceae”? I cant stand of the artificial lumping on MO of “whatever sensu lato”. I would prefer to see Fungi sp. (it makes it far easier for me to find stuff).

It wouldn’t surprise me if this was some sort of jelly fungus, scope it…

I like Hydnaceae
By: Martin Livezey (MLivezey)
2013-11-16 12:37:47 CST (-0500)

best. All that would say to me is that this appears to be a toothed fungus. But it does appear branched…, Does that eliminate it as a toothed fungus? I don’t know Radulodon which does have a cool name.

Cool specimen
By: AJ (j7u)
2013-10-13 16:26:24 CDT (-0400)

Never seen one so young!

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