Observation 150343: Gymnopilus aeruginosus (Peck) Singer
When: 2013-10-29
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Yes! :-)
By: maynardjameskeenan
2013-11-03 01:08:02 EDT (-0400)

I think it would be a great idea to better document them. Try to get as many attributes pictured as possible, also the variation between fruits. Take 30 pictures if you need to. Are you going to use something better than a camera phone? Try to get some ‘in situ’ photos as well. I will be sure to keep a look out for your new post. I’ve found Gymnopilus luteofolius many times and these are not them… in my opinion of course.

No
By: canid
2013-11-03 00:59:43 EDT (-0400)

I would just pick a name in that group and run with it. It patently fails my concept of G. aeruginosus (and Hesler’s description, though I don’t think I’ve ever laid my eyes on Peck’s or Singer’s work). It can’t hurt anything to call it aeruginosus for now anyway.

It makes no nevermind anyway, beyond academic purposes.

Want more pics?
By: Hunter hunter
2013-11-02 22:19:43 EDT (-0400)
Should I get something other than my I phone and post new photos? What should I do? Burn em!!!?
Perhaps
By: canid
2013-11-02 10:53:45 EDT (-0400)

If you were, then Hesler was likewise.

Gymnopilus aeruginosus…
By: Richard and Danielle Kneal (bloodworm)
2013-11-02 09:10:02 EDT (-0400)

i believe the previous observation was of immature specimens…
if i recall correctly.
if i id’d them as G. luteofolius and these are indeed from the same location, just mature specimens…
i was surely mistaken.

yeah
By: canid
2013-10-29 23:14:45 EDT (-0400)

these are so all over the road between the two species. The coloration of the context makes them for-sure luteofolius in my book though. It looks to be from purple-vinaceous to lavender through the cap, and aeruginosis is not supposed to have that particular coloration full-stop.

It’s simply the most reliable non-overlapping macro feature I know between my concepts of the two species. If it stops appearing to work that way I’ll stop using it.

Two weeks ago these were lutes.
By: Hunter hunter
2013-10-29 12:44:44 EDT (-0400)
The first flush of these bloodworm id’d them as luteofolius. If ya wanna check out what the first flush looked like check my observations from about two weeks ago. I think these are aeruginosus because of the intense bluing and the black fibrils on the pileus. However the flesh of the stipe is white. If that matters.
not aeruginosus
By: canid
2013-10-29 05:16:25 EDT (-0400)

Because of the coloration of the context. The purple coloration of the flesh extends past the cuticle into the context, and in fact even further than I’ve seen in a semi-mature luteofolius.

Based on what?
By: maynardjameskeenan
2013-10-29 05:07:37 EDT (-0400)

Why Is it not likely these are Gymnopilus aeruginosus!?!

Veil present (when young); stem less slender (length up to 2x cap diam); gills adnexed-adnate, at first slightly decurrent, then seceding; cap context pallid, tinged greenish or bluish green

……………………………………………………………………..Gymnopilus aeruginosus
CAP 2-5 (rarely to 23!) cm broad, convex, dry; at first dull bluish gray green , or aeruginous to variegated green and yellow, at times with patches of salmon or livid red, becoming warm buff, pinkish buff, or at times brown or drab; fibrillose scaly, becoming rimose-areolate, each areola with 2-8 cushion-like to fibrillose scales, or sometimes squamulose without areolae, the scales tawny or blackish, margin even. Context pallid or whitish, tinged greenish, or dull bluish green, when dry becoming yellowish to vinaceous. GILLS “cream buff” to “pale ochraceous orange”, lamellulae numerous, edges even to slightly rough. STIPE (3-) 5-12 cm long, (4) 10-15 (-40) mm thick, concolorous, appressed fibrillose or glabrous, dry, sometimes striate, solid becoming ± hollow, at times 3-8 connate at base, equal. VEIL arachnoid, yellowish, slight, fugacious, leaving apical evanescent zone. MICROSTRUCTURES spores 6-8.5(-9) x (3.5-)4-4.5 µ, no germ pore. Pleuro-, cheilo-, and caulocystidia. Pileus trama interwoven. HABITAT cespitose on deciduous and coniferous wood (sawdust, timber, logs, stumps). NOTES (WA) has several collections. May have oily, farinaceous odor.
G. aeruginosus (Peck) Singer

Maybe
By: Hunter hunter
2013-10-29 02:19:57 EDT (-0400)
It has been cold but no freezing yet here in portland. With The first flush I think I was spotted snapping pictures. I hadn’t harvested many, and when I went back the entire patch had been stomped out and scattered around. That was about two weeks ago… We have had dry sunny weather since. Tonight it is supposed to freeze so I snuck back in the cover of darkness to see what was happening. These are what I found. Gyms probably react the same as cyans do in dry weather. As it gets drier they most likely start to dry out and bruise a little bit more prominently. Also these were most likely the little pins off to the side that most likely received a violent boot to the head.
Wow
By: canid
2013-10-29 01:54:03 EDT (-0400)

Those are gorgeous. Did they freeze and thaw to result in such intense blueing?

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