Observation 157161: Lecania inundata (Hepp ex Körber) M. Mayrhofer

When: 2013-05-20

Collection location: Yellowstone Lake State Park, Wisconsin, USA [Click for map]

Who: Andrew Khitsun (Andrew)

Specimen available

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Recognized by sight
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Based on microscopic features: spores 1-septate, hyaline, 8 per ascus, ~11-14×3-5µm; abundant algae in amphithecium; cortex distinct, up to 40µm thick below apothecium rim
Based on chemical features: on HCl+ substrate; all spot tests negative; no granules or very weakly granular amphithecium and no granules in hymenium
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Recognized by sight: (see comments)

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Can’t rule out L. erysibe for sure
By: Jason Hollinger (jason)
2014-05-25 03:47:57 CDT (-0400)

Both L. cyrtella and L. dubitans are on bark. Both L. fuscella and L. nylanderiana have 3-septate spores. So those can all be ruled out easily. L. erysibe has blastidiate margins, but according to the British Flora, the blastidia can be very sparse and in those cases can be very similar to L. inundata.

Only 5 species of Lecania were listed for WI until now (according to Thomson & Bennett).
By: Andrew Khitsun (Andrew)
2014-05-24 20:59:41 CDT (-0400)

L.Cyrtella, L.dubitans (dimera), L.erysibe, L.fuscella (syringea), L.nylanderiana

Jason Identified this as Lecania
By: Andrew Khitsun (Andrew)
2014-05-23 23:39:20 CDT (-0400)
By: Jason Hollinger (jason)
2014-02-05 20:50:44 CST (-0500)

Might try it anyway, look for tell-tale black streaks in the hymenium, might still be visible if you have sharp eyes… Who knows!

Can’t do:
By: Andrew Khitsun (Andrew)
2014-02-05 18:46:58 CST (-0500)

my microscope is only 2x-4x :-(

Could go either way, but would guess Lecanora before Rinodina
By: Jason Hollinger (jason)
2014-02-05 18:16:45 CST (-0500)

You can actually see the color of the spores pretty easily under a dissecting microscope. If you have a nice clean razor blade, just cut one of the apothecia vertically and look at it under 20x or more. Rinodina (and Buellia and many Rhizocarpon) will have clearly visible black specks like pepper against the pale-colored interior. Some things look pure black, like Lecidea, but they mostly have colorless spores. Anyway, it’s a quick way to give a good guess to the genus of a number of crusts.

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