Observation 160740: Helvella L.
When: 2014-03-05
Collection location: Braga, Portugal [Click for map]
No herbarium specimen

Notes: Small, on moss under oaks.

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Incredibly interesting paper
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2014-03-06 15:16:21 CST (-0600)

Thanks for the link! Must read it more carefully later.

Seems like they are leaning towards queletii as a synonym to solitaria. But still, they have written separate descriptions…
Such a pity that type collections of them haven’t been DNA-sequenced.

I have been reading
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2014-03-06 13:54:09 CST (-0600)

this ( includes reference to Mycotaxon vol. 119)
http://biblioteca.cucba.udg.mx:8080/...

and it seems that H. solitaria has very variable features, so these still can be H. solitaria, small version (larger specimen is only 1.5 cm height). Looking carefully to my all H. solitaria obs. of last year, it also seems so.

Yep…
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2014-03-05 15:57:05 CST (-0600)

I couldn’t find any match until now. If my other obs. were Helvella solitaria, this is completely different. The “caps” are closed not open, they are much smaller, the undersurface “hairy” (even H. queletii isn’t so scurfy is it?) and colour almost black.

Trouble..
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2014-03-05 14:54:53 CST (-0600)

It looks like what I have used to call Helvella queletii.
If Helvella solitaria is the same species, then it should be named Helvella solitaria, but I have doubts about it, so has both MycoBank and IndexFungorum…

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