Observation 161571: Craterellus calicornucopioides D. Arora & J.L. Frank

When: 2014-03-16

Collection location: Dunsmuir, California, USA [Click for map]


Who: (Aaron Cena) (mountainplayer)

No specimen available


Growing in hard packed ground near a foot path. Nearby trees included Ponderosa pine and Douglas fir.

EDIT: March 25, 2014. I took a friend back to the location on 3/23 with the intent to scrutinize the trees in the immediate area. There are four dead oaks (dead for years, by their appearance) nearby, but none closer than approximately 60 feet.

Nearby vegetation included what is shown in the new photos. Anyone recognize this species? ***********

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my point being…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2014-03-25 14:46:07 CDT (-0400)

that these very small tan oaks may not be able to support fungal fruiting.

conifers can also be hosts to Craterellus.

finding a very small tan oak nearby does not mean that it is the host.

Regardless of host, it is still an interesting location.

By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2014-03-25 14:06:49 CDT (-0400)

tanbark oak is NOT a member of the “oak family,” but rather a member of the beech family, which contains oak, beech, tanbark oak, chestnuts, chinquapin, etc..

tan oak is thought to be a link between chestnuts and oaks, sharing characters with both. it is highly susceptible to Sudden Oak Death. Its bark is an excellent source of tannins. It was formerly used to tan hides, hence the common name.

This one was a shrub
By: (Aaron Cena) (mountainplayer)
2014-03-25 14:04:52 CDT (-0400)

I’d guess about 3 feet tall, with a stalk a bit over an inch in diameter at the base. This was the closest to the trumpets…other specimens with 15-30 feet were up to 5 feet high. Dense tree canopy probably slows their growth, I’d imagine. Who knows how old these could be?

tan oak is easy to ID…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2014-03-25 13:51:22 CDT (-0400)

large, long leaves with sharp edges and parallel veins.

Was this a full grown tree or just a shrub? Not sure how big/old it needs to be before MR fungi will fruit.

Thanks, Christian!
By: (Aaron Cena) (mountainplayer)
2014-03-25 13:37:28 CDT (-0400)
There’s the tanoak
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2014-03-25 13:26:41 CDT (-0400)

(Notholithocarpus densiflorus) – a member of the oak family. Nice!

I think you’re right
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2014-03-18 18:55:03 CDT (-0400)

I’ll email him about it right now and see if we
can get some records added here.

Inland reports of Craterellus
By: christopher hodge (christopher hodge)
2014-03-18 18:42:33 CDT (-0400)

I think I recall Dan Nicholson mentioning he has found them in the sierra foothills near tanoak or live oak.

What an interesting and tasty find!

Habitat / Host trees
By: (Aaron Cena) (mountainplayer)
2014-03-18 16:29:58 CDT (-0400)

Hi Christian,

This area constantly amazes with its diverse fungi. But I never would have guessed that I’d find this species.

Habitat is dominated by Douglas fir, and to a much lesser extent by Ponderosa pine and Incense cedar. I know that there was at least one dead oak within 30 feet of these specimens, so there is an excellent chance that there were live specimens within reasonable distance. However, they would be in the extreme minority.

My first thought on finding these was that there was NOTHING unique about the habitat that would assist me in finding more.

It seems as if all things mycorrhizal begin and end with Douglas fir in this area…although I know there are exceptions.

I had no idea that my find would represent the fartheast east portion of the distribution or I would have saved a sample. Hopefully my reporting that they were delicious will serve as my contribution to what is know about this species.

(FYI: haven’t forgotten about sending you the E. bloxamii…just being extremely lazy).

Jherek: Thanks for the compliment! If you’d like, I’d be happy to take you to the location. I didn’t get a chance to look around as I had two very unhappy young hikers with me who couldn’t wait to get back to the car.

By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2014-03-18 15:24:48 CDT (-0400)

Howdy Aaron,

I’ll chime in with yet another great find!

Were there any oaks around? I found a cluster under solid pine on the immediate coast at Salt Point a handful of years ago, but other than that, every experience I’ve had with this species involves hardwoods.

Currently, the distribution of C. cornucopioides in California is as follows:

Furthest north: Siskiyou Co. (inland oaks) – there may be vouchered specimens from Del Norte county that I haven’t heard about.
Furthest east: this observation, please add more habitat info if there are any oaks there
Furthest south: under Coast Live Oak, Carmel Valley, northwestern Monterey County (and to be looked for further south under live oak and tanoak, probably occurring almost as far south as tanoaks grow or possibly further under lush live oak).
And of course, all along the western part of the state wherever appropriate habitat occurs (closely coinciding with the range of Redwood, but not the habitat).

It would be interesting to see if there are any Craterellus with the central-eastern population of tanoaks near Yosemite and the scattered patches north through the Sierra Nevada.

unusual location.
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2014-03-18 11:27:53 CDT (-0400)

nice find.

You are a god among men
By: Jherek (Jherek)
2014-03-18 04:22:31 CDT (-0400)

Really nice find! I’ve never dreamed that those could bloom in these hills. I am inspired to go out and wander!

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