Observation 162788: Amanita sect. Validae (Fr.) Singer
When: 2014-04-03
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Notes:
May be Amanita. Found in open area in forest soil. Stipe separated from pileus easily.

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Recognized by sight: volva breaking into warts on cap, leaving scarce remnants at stipe base. membranous PV.

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Hiya, Debbie
By: I. G. Safonov (IGSafonov)
2017-03-18 20:45:25 PDT (-0700)

I concur sect. Validae makes good sense. For me it was the shape of the bulb (not rooting enough for sect. Lepidella and not round/bulbous enough for sect. Amanita) and the loose texture of UV sitting on it that connected the dots between all other traits that happen to overlap in the other two sections. Of course, there are exceptions lurking in every section, so one must think it terms of gestalt morphology all the time for the best educated guess. Also, I am glad you didn’t fall into the trap of mistaking the fake marginal striations (due to tissue atrophy in old age) for the real thing, which is not a feature applicable to sect. Validae. :-)

there you go, Igor!
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2017-03-18 16:23:20 PDT (-0700)

what I was hoping for, however, was some confirmation of what this is, a bit deeper than glance at a photo and make a guess.

BTW, Ian, does anyone eat amanitas in OZ? Not talking about those red capped polka dotted beauties, for whatever reason, but known non-toxic edible species?

You appear to have quite a few vaginate amanitas (grisettes), none of which have been shown to be toxic anywhere in the world, and many varieties of the Validae, many of which are also edible, but all of which are on a case by case basis for edible worthiness, i.e. good flavor.

Has the European Amanita rubescens also been introduced there, along with phalloides and muscaria? Or were some of the many rubescent taxa there merely misidentified back in 1980, by Reid?

Do folks even eat any of those chanterelles that you have documented so nicely?

Do the Aboriginals eat mushrooms of any kind, other than Cyttaria? Maybe some of those desert truffles? I don’t imagine there are too many hunters of edible mushrooms in OZ, but hey, I could be wrong! Those forests are awfully full of bities, just like your beautiful and tempting waters!

Anyone…
By: I. G. Safonov (IGSafonov)
2017-03-18 16:01:44 PDT (-0700)

…adventurous enough to propose ID at the section level? :-)

anything to add to this obsie, Rod?
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2017-03-18 15:35:18 PDT (-0700)

was it a Validae? Did you scope it? Was the DNA run?

Thanks Ian,
By: groundhog
2014-04-29 13:14:57 PDT (-0700)

We have recieved this material, and accessioned it to Rod’s herbarium.
-Naomi

Thank you, Ian.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2014-04-08 05:40:56 PDT (-0700)

I’ll go for the complete set…gratefully.

Very best,

Rod

Specimen

This specimen has survived also Rod. Yours if you wish. Chow, kk

The yellow volval material is interesting in this specimen.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2014-04-07 17:35:34 PDT (-0700)

The insect damage should not make it impossible to analyze if it survived the drying process.

Very best,

Rod

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