Observation 167045: Pluteus petasatus (Fr.) Gillet
When: 2014-06-09
No herbarium specimen

Notes: Is this what I believe it is? (Pluteus cervinus)

Also, what’s up w/the almost not free lamellae on it?

Lastly, who here has notice a radish smell to Pluteus cervinus, and who’s noticed that taste?

Thank you.

Sam Schaperow, M.S.
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By: Terri Clements/Donna Fulton (pinonbistro)
2014-06-10 21:30:00 EDT (-0400)

according to M. Kuo and others.

Terri

Is the radish quality more found in the old ID (P. c.) or in this ID (P.p.)?
By: Sam.Schaperow (SamSchaperow)
2014-06-10 21:17:00 EDT (-0400)

Is the radish quality more found in the old ID (P. c.) or in this ID (P.p.)?

varied:
By: Sam.Schaperow (SamSchaperow)
2014-06-10 20:01:30 EDT (-0400)

Thanks everyone. D.V., that’s very helpful to know.

The habitat mentioned was an old maple stump was there (it is probably growing on the old roots now). I’d guess it was red maple, and I know it wasn’t norway maple.

As to radish, I notice a faint radish and raw potato smell, and the taste includes both, including a bit of the hotness of a radish.

habitat…
By: Richard and Danielle Kneal (bloodworm)
2014-06-10 13:51:07 EDT (-0400)

what was the habitat/substrate?
looks a bit closer to Pluteus petasatus, imo…
the 4th and 6th photos appear to show what looks like dirt/sand on the stipe base.

nothing in the “cervinus group” is toxic …
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2014-06-10 13:40:23 EDT (-0400)

but that doesn’t translate to delicious, either. Watery, bland, eh, are some of the descriptors that I have heard from those who have bothered to eat it.

you can’t tell Pluteus to sp. w/out microscopy. Calling a brownish capped Pluteus “cervinus” is merely lumping for expediency. That’s fine, if you don’t really care about the exact species. You can’t tell just by holding it in your hand and looking, tho, or by just looking at a photo. If you want to do the taxonomy, you will need to get or get access to a scope!

Where have you heard that before? ;)

Many groups of fungi that we consider to have free gills can have individuals that don’t fit the norm, with gills that are not so free, or not free at all. I see this frequently in the amanitas. Our generic descriptions are broad and general, and apply to most, but certainly not all. Variability is the spice and very matter of life!

edibility?
By: Sam.Schaperow (SamSchaperow)
2014-06-09 22:04:27 EDT (-0400)

Should there be any concern in the edibility department?

There is not much more one can say
By: Ron Pastorino (Ronpast)
2014-06-09 21:47:03 EDT (-0400)

without some microscopy.
Most likely P. cervinus.
Also, it would help to photograph them in natural light…it would help avoid the odd yellow cast which complicates any attempt at a photo ID.

vote?
By: Sam.Schaperow (SamSchaperow)
2014-06-09 21:16:18 EDT (-0400)

any voters on this one?

Good link to Kuo, Terri.

Radish odor and taste
By: Terri Clements/Donna Fulton (pinonbistro)
2014-06-09 20:14:57 EDT (-0400)

not uncommon see: Kuo, M. (2004, December). Pluteus cervinus: The deer mushroom. Retrieved from the MushroomExpert.Com Web site: http://www.mushroomexpert.com/pluteus_cervinus.html. Found what I think is P. cervinus today and there is a mild radish taste and the gills seemed as you described—almost free.

Terri

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