Observation 167379: Xerocomellus zelleri (Murrill) Klofac
When: 2012-06-20
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MyCoPortal vs. Mushroom Observer
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2014-06-15 13:14:52 PDT (-0700)

Noah, how many photographs have you posted on MyCoPortal? MyCoPortal is essentially a herbarium collections database. I agree that it is a great system for storing all the graphic material going with the herbarium specimens, but the photos and drawings are lost there in among the herbarium information without pictures. Oluna’s collections are or will be deposited in the UBC herbarium and I have been trying to convince them to join MyCoPortal, and I will try again. MyCoPortal picked about 155 Oluna’s specimens, mostly of Cortinarius and Inocybe, those that had DNA sequenced and had jpegs on MO, and put them into Special Collections as the UBC duplicates. I hope that one day, the UBC mycological herbarium joins the MyCoPortal and then our about 2000 MO observations will be accessible (and safely stored) there. Go to MyCoPortal
and search for “Ceska” (no apostrophises) as a collector.
MyCoPortal lacks some nice features that are unique for Mushroom Observer. It is too serious for my taste, and I would miss being called names or being advised to shut up. Have a nice day, eh?

You should start that then
By: Jimmy Craine (doctorghosty)
2014-06-15 09:50:28 PDT (-0700)

I think the domain name www.superciliousonemembermushroomsite.com is probably available

By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2014-06-15 09:45:58 PDT (-0700)

“MO Plus” already exists. It’s called MycoPortal…

Good example that we need a better MO
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2014-06-15 09:39:41 PDT (-0700)

This observation and all the comments may prove my point. Since I first started to use MO, I tried to convince Nathan to create an MO subset that would accept only those observations that would be supported by the herbarium specimens. I.e., this observation would not qualify for “MO Plus” (name I gave to such a subset) or “MO Minus” (Nathan’s suggestion). Throughout the both subsets, I was calling for dividing Comments into “Annotations” (e.g., “Xerocomellus zelleri (Murrill) Klofac”) and “General Comments” (e.g., “Adolf, you’re a dick”). I am afraid that MO gurus as well as many other people would rather agree with the phrase I gave as an example of “General Comments” than with my suggestions. :-)

By: Richard Kneal (bloodworm)
2014-06-15 02:34:26 PDT (-0700)

very well said Jimmy.

I do feel guilty
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2014-06-14 18:45:46 PDT (-0700)

Believe me, I do feel guilty that I am using MO the way I am using it. Adolf

More rants disguised as apologies
By: Jimmy Craine (doctorghosty)
2014-06-14 16:49:04 PDT (-0700)

Just cut it out. if mushrooms are causing you, in any fashion, “anger” then maybe you seriously need a break from them. Why would you want to discourage any level of participation?

It was my fault
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2014-06-14 16:30:57 PDT (-0700)

Apologies. I misused your observation for venting my anger against MO observations that lack supporting herbarium specimens. In his numerous publications, R.F. Daubenmire documented the occurrence of western floristic elements and west coast vegetation types in northern Idaho. Regretfully, I have been in Idaho only one afternoon when I was involved in the survey of aquatic plants in southern British Columbia and visited Moravia village S of the BC/US boundary. Moravia is an eastern part of the Czech Republic where I came from. Adolf
P.S. Next time, preserve a herbarium specimen.

So much for my Mycologia cover article
By: Chris Kleine (ckleine)
2014-06-14 15:30:09 PDT (-0700)

From Mushrooms Demystified to Mushroomexpert.com, X. zelleri is said to be a west coast species, and in my (inadequate?) experience I haven’t found it in the intermountain region, so I didn’t want to be too presumptuous. However, X. zelleri in norther Idaho doesn’t surprise me. I was terribly irresponsible for not checking Mycoportal first. I will do so before opening my big mouth about species distributions in the future.

Cool find!
By: Jimmy Craine (doctorghosty)
2014-06-14 14:24:51 PDT (-0700)

Nicely done sir

Apologies for downplaying this great discovery
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2014-06-14 13:53:33 PDT (-0700)

MyCoPortal lists 31 specimens of Boletus zelleri from Idaho. Adolf

Noah, not useless
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2014-06-14 13:41:13 PDT (-0700)

Hi Noah, point well taken. I see the great advantage of Mushroom Observer that the users can use it the way they consider useful. Adolf

I’ll try to find more
By: MushroomPantheon
2014-06-14 12:03:59 PDT (-0700)

I will try to find more of them this fall they were right near my house. What should I do with the species that I collect?

This is NOT “totally usless”
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2014-06-14 11:49:13 PDT (-0700)

This observation tells us that there is a bolete in Idaho that macroscopically looks like X. zelleri. That is useful information to some. Maybe not you, but you aren’t the only MO user…

By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2014-06-14 11:44:31 PDT (-0700)

I’m only doing this because I haven’t seen anybody else do it yet…

Please shut up!

Totally useless observation
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2014-06-14 11:42:01 PDT (-0700)

Without herbarium specimens, MO observations like this one are totally useless.

Looks like X. zelleri…
By: Chris Kleine (ckleine)
2014-06-14 11:11:06 PDT (-0700)

…but I’m surprised that it’s this far east.

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