Observation 174995: Amanita Pers.
When: 2014-08-23
No herbarium specimen

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If you’ll excuse from operating from memory…(I’m on the road)…
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2014-08-24 04:22:00 MST (-0700)

I was thinking of Amanita sp-36 (to which Jenkins applied the name franchetii).


From my collections and those sent to me from Florida and the Gulf Coast region, I know that sp-36 has a somewhat variable cap color and a range extending from at least southern New England to the aforementioned Florida and the Gulf Coast.

I would be interested to see your dried material corresponding to these images. In the last couple of years, I’ve had the opportunity to send samples of a number of my collections from the Validae to supportive laboratories for sequencing of one or two genes. As a result, I have genetic support for the sp-36 species concept (hypothesis) and have found that another temporary code (sp-F14) apparently was duplicative (i.e. sp-F14 is sp-36, and sp-F14 is superfluous). The resulting combination of data can be found at the URL cited above…along with images of material from a couple of sites.

It sounds like your species may have a cap that is more yellow than I am used to seeing in sp-36. So it will be interesting to see if it is outside of the sp-36 “boundaries” or not.

Very best,


hi Rod!
By: Jimmy Craine (doctorghosty)
2014-08-23 20:01:45 MST (-0700)

these looked totally and completely yellow to my naked eye, perhaps darkening to the lightest orange at the apex of the cap

I could go grab these specimen tomorrow if you are interested, I doubt they have been jostled.

Hello, Jimmy.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2014-08-23 19:52:59 MST (-0700)

I’m trying to relate this image to taxa I think I know from the SE US. Is the color of the center of the cap redder in the photos than in your memory of the mushroom? Could it have been more of an orange-tan or brownish orange? I raise this question because excess red has been a problem from several digital cameras in recent years on MO.

Very best,


By: Richard and Danielle Kneal (bloodworm)
2014-08-23 14:58:05 MST (-0700)

we dont.
but its at the very least good speculation, imo.

And how do we know…
By: I. G. Safonov (IGSafonov)
2014-08-23 14:55:17 MST (-0700)

… it’s A. flavivolva and not A. flavoconia or A. elongata? BTW, A. flavorubens is a stretch.

damn you Herbert…
By: Richard and Danielle Kneal (bloodworm)
2014-08-23 14:40:52 MST (-0700)

Someone has already proposed that name. If you would like to comment on it, try posting a comment instead."

lol. ;)

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