Observation 183673: Pluteus Fr.
When: 2014-09-27
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By Willow Nero. “Pinkish” spore print (yeah, right).

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Agreed, and thanks again for starting so many of these convos
By: Willow Nero (wbnero)
2014-10-23 14:10:26 PDT (-0700)

Thank you, Christian. I was acting as MAW member when we got that comment — and ouch! (Several of us work on this account to upload our “official” lists, not just me.)

At our foray, Andrew Methven let us know the Pluteus cervinus group is getting split up soon, but not every notation turns into an outright change in our database. It does help when MO indicates a change. I try to download our previous lists to compare/contrast. It is also sometimes hard to know what’s right or what to use when you have to sort through matters of opinion (“I haven’t read that paper, so it’s still P. cervinus in my book”) and malicious comments.

The community needs to have a talk about this…
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2014-10-23 13:52:17 PDT (-0700)

“sabotaging the credibility of your species list” is not only excessively emotionally loaded language, it’s also not true.

What the MAW is doing is in fact accurately representing their species list – warts and all.
Which is different from accurately representing the species present to the best of scientific knowledge.

It would be nice if we could standardize people’s usage across the site, but so far we have yet to draw up anything like a draft of that (much less undertake the kind of education needed to make that feasible).

I’d recommend using Pluteus cervinus group because that’s a fairly clear name for this “recording aggregate” – a term I’ve used to refer to the species that get lumped under tag names at fairs.

The record is not believable
By: Byrain
2014-10-23 13:33:38 PDT (-0700)

The P. cervinus group still needs a lot of work in the States and you are only sabotaging the credibility of your species list by using that name.

Byrain, Just Adding to Our Species List
By: Mycological Association of Washington (MAW member)
2014-10-23 12:58:18 PDT (-0700)

All these specimens were found at our foray and ID’d by professionals. We’re just going through and adding what data we have to go with them. Though, it sounds like Pleuteus cervinus is going to be split up a great bit in the future anyhow.

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