Observation 183926: Flammulina P. Karst.

When: 2014-10-14

Collection location: Kootenai Co., Idaho, USA [Click for map]

Who: MushroomPantheon

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Recognized by sight: Bluing?! obs 182606

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By: Image Sharer (image sharer)
2014-10-21 20:30:27 -05 (-0500)

I would send the dried collection to S. Redhead. See if more flushes emerge from your patch and try things to induce and better show any bluing. It’s possible that the color itself can be difficult to describe. Mycologists do use hand lenses in the field (5x – 10x) to more closely observe features while in the outdoors and back at the lab/home.

Hooe this is of help.

Took prints
By: MushroomPantheon
2014-10-21 13:01:44 -05 (-0500)

And am drying out specimens. 6 prints and 6 dried specimens.

Unfortunately I only have an iPhone to take pictures with. It seems like bluing to me. After just sitting in my fridge for a day the stipes turned almost black. What I did notice is that the very most inner part didn’t seem to blue. It was the ring around it. (sorry I don’t know my mycology terms as well as I should). The bluing is very immediate. I wish I had a better camera is all I can say. The outside of the stipe didn’t seem to do too much until after it was in the fridge. But others more experienced see blue/green bruising where I can’t. Also on one of the specimens I didn’t cut it very well so part of the outer stipe at the base frayed off a bit. It turned very dark in blue to where it was almost black.

When I cut the caps off for printing I noticed the stipe did not turn blue where I cut it. Maybe that is because it was in the fridge for a day I don’t know. I know other species blue mostly at the base.

Hopefully this helps a bit.

Yes, I would.
By: Image Sharer (image sharer)
2014-10-20 13:16:38 -05 (-0500)

Take several “as sterile as possible” prints on tinfoil. They will have to go to trusted cultivators.

Also, can you provide more details to describe your personal observations of the bluing?

By: MushroomPantheon
2014-10-20 13:07:54 -05 (-0500)

Should I take prints

By: MushroomPantheon
2014-10-18 21:00:40 -05 (-0500)

It seemed very blue when I cut it. That’s why I took the picture of the bottom of the stipe. I didn’t expect it so I took a picture. It has rained a lot the past few days, so hopefully they aren’t too beat up. I will go check tomorrow, luckily the spot is close and I should be able to find it again.

Would it be safe to bioassay these? In any case, I will dry a couple out and take prints. I’ll take more pictures also.

So these haven’t been seen to blue before? It is interesting that both of these obs were found on opposite sides of the country.

I bet the fervent people in that obs will want you to!
By: Jacob Kalichman (Pulk)
2014-10-18 20:56:27 -05 (-0500)
By: Image Sharer (image sharer)
2014-10-18 20:55:58 -05 (-0500)

I would collect some but first photograph this species more closely. I think I’m seeing what you guys are seeing, but colors can be tricky.

Let’s see if a bumper crop pops!

By: MushroomPantheon
2014-10-18 20:50:23 -05 (-0500)

Thanks for that link. Pretty interesting was not expecting it to blue. Should I go collect some? I didn’t keep any.

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