Observation 187883: Panaeolus (Fr.) Quél.
When: 2014-11-09
Who: R.W. (Al.)

Notes: In picture with gill close up, ignore the lighter colored mushroom for now, this observation is for the darker one.

Images

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Scalp
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Scalp
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Scalp
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Scalp
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basidia
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basidia
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basidia
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basidia
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Sporage
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Sporage
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Sporage
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cystidia
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cystidia
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cystidia
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cystidia
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Are these sulphidia?
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Are these sulphidia?
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Are these sulphidia?
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Are these sulphidia?
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20x objective
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20x objective
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20x objective
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20x objective
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Proposed Names

Al.
28% (1)
Eye3
Recognized by sight
81% (1)
Eyes3
Recognized by sight

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Comments

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Thank you!
By: R.W. (Al.)
2014-11-11 17:53:10 CST (-0600)

Yes I did find that today, thank you! I’m reading it over and racking my brain on it before I do a few more cuts. I haven’t come to any conclusions yet….

Did you
By: Rocky Houghtby
2014-11-11 17:44:46 CST (-0600)

Get the email I sent you?

I found some more today.
By: R.W. (Al.)
2014-11-11 16:11:42 CST (-0600)

I also cropped some micro pictures, the spores are smooth and the germ pores are oblique.

I’m not sure if the tiny yellow drops near the spore are……

Spore measurements
By: R.W. (Al.)
2014-11-10 09:29:17 CST (-0600)

Piximètre 5.8 R 275 : le 10/11/2014 à 10:55:54.8066279

11.7 [13.6 ; 14.4] 16.3 × 6.9 [8 ; 8.6] 9.7 µm
Q = 1.4 [1.6 ; 1.8] 2 ; N = 31 ; C = 95%
Me = 14 × 8.3 µm ; Qe = 1.7

14.52 8.29
14.71 9.43
12.98 8.57
18.31 9.90
12.83 7.76
13.53 8.79
13.43 9.00
15.24 7.13
13.59 8.83
13.23 8.33
14.67 8.66
14.19 7.77
12.71 6.91
13.52 9.18
12.14 8.16
12.40 6.78
15.01 8.11
14.82 7.93
13.02 7.47
13.47 8.60
13.93 8.25
15.06 8.59
13.08 8.58
12.73 8.29
14.25 7.43
14.29 9.17
15.12 8.85
13.43 7.90
15.04 7.59
14.63 8.89
14.35 8.18

spores seem pretty large…. Might fit with olivaceus as per gerhardt….?

My German is weak, and so are the online translators…..I can’t tell what it says about olivaceus regarding sulphidia, which I don’t think I found. I will likely look again later on this afternoon. I will also look for cheliocystidia and pleurocystidia, and close up of spores.

Al.
By: Byrain
2014-11-10 08:28:30 CST (-0600)

Your cystidia images appear to be basidioles and your sulphidia images are hyphae. Your micro images would also be easier to look at if you cropped all the black border out. Are you capable of taking spore measurements yet? And can you describe the germ pore position for me? Is it always apical? Or do some of them have oblique (Slanted) germ pores in the side view?

Is there anything else I need to photo for a complete observation?
By: R.W. (Al.)
2014-11-09 23:53:15 CST (-0600)

Is there anything else I need to photo for a complete observation?

Is any chemical required to view sulphidia
By: R.W. (Al.)
2014-11-09 17:49:15 CST (-0600)

Or can you just use water…? Thanks.

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