Observation 188007: Amanita sect. Vaginatae sensu Zhu L. Yang
When: 2014-11-10
No herbarium specimen

Notes: The size of this mushroom is 7 inches long, total length. See images.

The gill attachment was free.

I thought had I found a mushroom like the one in Observation 188000

There is no ring on the stem.

I don’t think there was a volva. Hummm, there were 3 just like this one in close proximity. Maybe I will go back and dig up another one.

I got a white spore print from the cap but threw out the cap soon after getting the print as it was very smelly.

This was near the creek, with lots of sand in the soil from creek overflow. Mixed hardwoods and pine. Sweet Gum, Oak, Pine, River Birch.

I will add photos of the spore and measurements when I get to them.

Proposed Names

-84% (1)
Used references: www.amanitaceae.org
46% (2)
Eye3 Eyes3
Recognized by sight: It’s common with some types in sect. Vaginatae to occur with basal volval sac buried, and eventually semi-disintegrated.

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Eye3 = Observer’s choice
Eyes3 = Current consensus


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You’re welcome, Linda Gail.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2014-11-12 14:00:57 CST (-0500)

For years I skipped over the species of sect. Vaginatae, although I collected some and dried them for the future. However, I’ve gotten too far into the future :), and I’ll have to re-collect them if I want to work with the DNA.

I have a book on ferns that I obtained in my late 50s. It says that ferns are the perfect thing to take up if you are over 50 because there are not that many of them in North American forests. Oh, me. I got started on Amanita in my 30s and didn’t start studying the Vaginatae until I was about to turn 50. That was “some time back,” and I’m still scratching at the surface…like a dog at the door.

Very best,


group Vaginatae
By: L G Price (LG_Price)
2014-11-12 09:31:37 CST (-0500)

This is a lesson to me to start using the Amanitaceae Checklists when I go out looking. I try to use the camera to capture the story, but a checklist to make sure I don’t overlook something is a good idea.

I looked at the black one, Amanita sp-T10, it is amazing. It would also be very easy to “not see” or overlook thinking it was in advanced decay.

The area I live in is full of Amanita species. I have been overlooking most of them as identification seemed too difficult. I will have to become disciplined about putting finds into Mushroom Observer.

Also, I have read the Amanitaceae.org pages on spore measurement. I will look them over again and use that method to make my measurements.

Thanks for all your help.
Linda Gail

Impressive, Linda.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2014-11-12 08:32:39 CST (-0500)

What a beaut. The beaut that got away.

There are so many species of sect. Vaginatae in the sandy Pine-Oak woods in eastern Texas…

I think that’s a good project for a decade or two.

Various colleagues and I are working on as many of the Vaginatae as we can get our hands on. You’ll see a pile of them in the Texas and Gulf Coast check list on the Amanitaceae web site. Have you seen the coal black critter? We got some sequence data from it yesterday. No surprise, there’s nothing like it (at present, anyway) in our little (but growing) catalog of Vaginatae DNA data.

Very best,


Volva Sack
By: L G Price (LG_Price)
2014-11-11 23:40:42 CST (-0500)

I went back today, 3 days later, and I could not find any of these. I couldn’t even find bits of one. Something must have decided to eat them.

I won’t know for sure if these have a buried volva sack until I find them again. It’s possible to get them this year if we get heavy rain, but otherwise, a project for next year.

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