Observation 188720: Lichen P. Micheli
When: 2014-11-16

Notes: on granodiorite used as barrier;

without permit only allowed collect a few apothecia (mushrooms)

photos compromised as forgot tripod that day; very attractive to me, so wanted to identify, but depending on how important should only spend so much time on a lichen

epilithic thallus in some places but mostly without;

in field thinking Lecidea, e.g. L. laboriosa;

section apothecium thinking Porpidia;

paraphyses extremely coherent in H2O and KOH, which made difficult to see detail and particularly get good iodine rx tholus;

is there a method to loosen up coherent paraphyses in section or squash?

Images

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interested in black apothecia in center
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what appears might be thallus is quartz and feldspar (see 8th image RD15483 d full size)
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image at full size clearly see pale grey rimose thallus associated with the black apothecia
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image at full size don’t see thallus
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lecanorine with dark disk lichen at lower left looks interesting (pale lichen Lecanora polytropa)
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see notes – don’t trust this

Proposed Names

83% (1)
Eye3 Eyes3
Recognized by sight: obviously a lichen, but which one
Used references: McCune, Bruce (2007) Miscellaneous Keys to Microlichens of the Pacific Northwest of North America; Smith, C.W., Aptroot, A., Coppins, B.J., Fletcher, A., Gilbert, O.L., James, P.W. and Wolseley, P.A. (2009) The Lichens of Great Britain and Ireland; Thomson, J.W. (1997) American Arctic Lichens, 2. The Microlichens
Based on microscopic features: hymenium 45 µm;

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Eye3 = Observer’s choice
Eyes3 = Current consensus

Comments

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This looks like Lecidea to me
By: Jason Hollinger (jason)
2014-11-27 20:34:00 CST (-0500)

That ascus stain could well be lecidea-type. I find that L. laboriosa is always difficult to get the paraphyses to separate even in K. Best plan is to do super-thin section, but then risk damaging asci, so it’s a trade-off. This microscopy looks perfectly in line with photos I have. I’m not surprised you weren’t able to find spores, that’s also not uncommon, esp. if you only have a few apothecia.

My opinion: safest name is L. laboriosa. There’s no way to increase confidence in any of the alternatives.

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