Observation 191147: Amanita sect. Caesareae Singer
When: 2014-10-30
No herbarium specimen

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Another possible observation of this taxon.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2014-12-02 20:28:40 PST (-0800)

MO 174309

R

in NE Texas
By: L G Price (LG_Price)
2014-12-02 18:51:42 PST (-0800)

They are done for this year in this area but are abundant when conditions are right.

I don’t eat mushrooms and wouldn’t consider eating any Amanita from this area if I did. There is a reason we are naming them as a “group”. Eating them would be like playing Russian Roulette to my mind.

nice
By: wowitch
2014-12-02 15:51:01 PST (-0800)

good find. I would like to see them in eastern central Texas. They are supposed to taste great.

Thanks for the confirmation, Ron.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2014-12-02 12:00:56 PST (-0800)

I’m pretty sure that there have been postings from southeastern states as well as Texas. We’ll see what turns up.

Very best,

Rod

Rod, Unfortunately you are correct,
By: Ron Pastorino (Ronpast)
2014-12-02 11:37:27 PST (-0800)

there was no voucher for the MO#25750. All I have is a spore print.
Ron

I received your comment response concerning planning for next year.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2014-12-02 10:54:35 PST (-0800)

Good ideas all around, Linda Gail.

I’ll put in a request for this critter if it shows its head.

Very best,

Rod

And 25750 is not represented by dried material. Right, Ron?
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2014-12-02 10:08:03 PST (-0800)

Thanks again for the link, Ron.

It looks like we haven’t yet ID’d an observation that produced material in my herbarium.

Somebody prove me wrong.

PLEASE. :) :( [<—-Greek drama masks]

Very best,

Rod

In response to Ron.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2014-12-02 10:02:49 PST (-0800)

Thanks very much for pointing me back to the older collection. It pointed back to an even earlier observation. I’ve checked my herbarium for the latter. Apparently I didn’t receive it. At least, “Howell County, Missouri” doesn’t exist in the herbarium data base.

I have a terrible feeling that I never asked for a collection after that. Still checking.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE HELP, Ron. We are doing the tedious process of submitting stuff to GenBank today and double checking the complete text of every submission. SLOOOOOW.

Very best,

Rod

Adding Observations with limited data
By: L G Price (LG_Price)
2014-12-02 09:22:17 PST (-0800)

I am in the process of adding to Mushroom Observer older observations that can be ID’d to genus.

Most of my observations are made in the town where I live or are at nature areas close by. I thought it would be useful to put up these observations as I could plan to make better collections and observations next year if requested by someone else. Also, I plan to revisit these locations and try to improve the observations as I go along.

I am in learning mode, so I should be able to do a better job of it next year.

Linda Gail

This may be one of the earlier MO
By: Ron Pastorino (Ronpast)
2014-12-02 08:00:36 PST (-0800)

observations Rod is talking about. Also from Texas.
http://mushroomobserver.org/25750

Nevertheless,…
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2014-12-02 06:24:51 PST (-0800)

this problem nags at me. I will seek some resolution.

Very best,

Rod

Changed
By: L G Price (LG_Price)
2014-12-01 21:33:24 PST (-0800)

The ID is changed to Amanita sect. Caesarae.

That should do for now.

Regards,
Linda Gail

Well, it’s in Amanita sect. Caesareae.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2014-12-01 21:18:44 PST (-0800)

I’ll have to go through collections that I may have been sent in the last year in order to see if this got a temporary code. I have been working on the Vaginatae and other parts of Amanita in recent months, and don’t recall at the moment if a temporary code was assigned for this taxon. I have a feeling that it didn’t get one. I must have commented on quite a few observations of this taxon in the last two or three years. The comments could be searched I suppose. If I had a bunch of MO observations numbers, then I could check my herbarium data base (I always include the MO numbers on the labels of material that comes to me from folks that post on MO.

It’s been a long day…at the moment.

Very best,

Rod

How to name?
By: L G Price (LG_Price)
2014-12-01 21:09:48 PST (-0800)

Thanks for the comments.

All I have is the photos for this one. Although it’s local and I should easily find it next year.

How should I name it if not Amanita jacksonii?

Linda Gail

This isn’t the true jacksonii because it lacks the orange felted remnants on…
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2014-12-01 21:04:11 PST (-0800)

the stipe surface.

Material like this has been posted several times in recent years. All the postings have been from outside the northeastern states. I have never seen this species fresh myself; however, I have seen at least a dozen postings of it on MO.

Nice to see it from Texas.

Very best,

Rod

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